He said what he to engineer a move but if we'd told him to STFU and play then I think he would have and not sulked round the place.
We'd have got CL football and after a few boos the moment he scored a goal or two everyone would have been singing his name again.
We would have sold him statement or no statement.
Maybe, but the statement removed all doubt and literally left us no choice.Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Which also left us no choice in where he went.
For footballing reasons. Fabregas, Song, Nasri, anyone who starts to make a serious impact. Sold. That's their game and every single time they play it they tell us they had no choice. You'd think if they were genuinely reluctant to sell and had been getting fucked over like this for several years they might change their policies. But no, and that's because they are working with the policy that suits them best. Open the shop, put the good stuf out front, sell, sell, sell.
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The contract gave us the choice. Not ideal choices wither way but they had to make the decision to sell to Utd and that's the choice they took.
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He said what he said because we tried to suggest he was moving for money and linked him to Man City. Follow the chain of events and you'll see that the decision to sell was made very early and before the Euros when he had his talks with Wenger and Gazidis. Months later, Wenger confirms that he didn't want to go to City so you have to question what the heck that City leak from PHW was about in the first place.
Alos, let's not ignore Wenger's comments about player peak and massive contracts. The club knew they weren't going to keep RVP which is why we moved for Podolski and Giroud so early. They were his replacements.
We should have kept in for the year but this has all been a domino effect. If we'd have strengthend the squad when we had Nasri and Cesc, they'd have been happy to see out another season and if they'd have stayed contract negotiations would have gone done well with RVP.
It was decided before the statement. Talks were held before the Euros.
Not sure Wenger is the best judge of player peak to be fair, at least not in recent years. And while a player may have peaked on the pitch, his off the pitch influence and playing the odd game here and there can far outweigh selling him off on the cheap...at least until we have blooded the replacement. I can imagine the scenario of Van Persie spending 7 seasons on the Arsenal treatment table and playing for a good 4 years injury free as a striker at Utd...22million transfer fee looks pittance then, doesn't it? Fergie was desperate for Van Persie, Wenger must have known that - if we were going to sell, it should have been for over 30million at least, closer to 40 imo. 22m or what's more likely going turn into 24m when they lift the premiership was pathetic, when you think Milner, Barry, Lescott, Adebayor, Nasri all went for similar fees to City. Despite that, he still should have been made to see out his contract and that will be even more telling if we fail to get CL football this season, which looks increasingly unlikely. He would have had no where to hide, had he walked up to Manchester on his own free will come June this year...but now he can claim that we 'sold out' just as we did with the whin ger Fabregas. I agree with your domino effect analogy...dismantling the old guys in the manner it was done - before blooding replacements was where it all went wrong.
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That's right too. Our crappy selling policy has heaped one problem on top of another. Inevitability has become their convenience. They made the problem and then they wring their hands and say they are powerless.
RvP, Wenger, the board, none of them respect or even consider the fans. If they want to fight then instead of slinging shit at each other in public in an internal argument they should stop for a second and look out the double glazing from their leather chairs and maybe they'll see 60K odd people out there who pay the bills. Wonder when they last noticed?
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This is such nonsense, he made the statement after it had been decided he'd be leaving, by then he'd already talked it through with the board and clearly they'd agreed to let him go.
Had they not, then he wouldn't have said anything.
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