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    It's easy to fight when you're chasing a game, that seems to happen a lot now and more often than not it's too little too late. We don't really have the same control over games like we used to, god knows why our first half performances have been so pathetic this year.

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    Well I more mean in games like Sunderland where things went against us and we battled it out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    It's easy to fight when you're chasing a game, that seems to happen a lot now and more often than not it's too little too late. We don't really have the same control over games like we used to, god knows why our first half performances have been so pathetic this year.
    scared and nervous. enough players have said so themselves. it reflects in our play. inhibited and a complete lack of self belief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz View Post
    scared and nervous. enough players have said so themselves. it reflects in our play. inhibited and a complete lack of self belief.
    Confidence comes from winning, winning from confidence.

    Fear comes from fucking up over and over, fucking up comes from fear.

    It's a virtuous/vicious circle. How do you break a circle? First of all you stop losing.

    That's if your main problem is 'confidence' or 'de-motivation' and not 'quality'.

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    how did the circle start and who is to blame?

    this is goonersweb. ain't a thing without a scapegoat.

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    This is everybody's fault but mine.

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    I don't think it comes down to confidence or fear. Too few players in this squad actually have the ability to control games. So little imagination, physical strength, speed of body and mind. These are absolute characteristics that are independent of psychology and determine absolute potential. We just don't have the personnel, and we haven't in the strength and depth needed to win anything important, for a very long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    I don't think it comes down to confidence or fear. Too few players in this squad actually have the ability to control games. So little imagination, physical strength, speed of body and mind. These are absolute characteristics that are independent of physiology and determine absolute potential. We just don't have the personnel, and we haven't in the strength and depth needed to win anything important, for a very long time.
    I think games against Bayern and Manure have shown a clear and demonstrable gulf in class.
    You cannot lose Cesc and Nasri and still convince people you are a big club. Fact is, we are 2nd tier.
    We have 2nd tier ambitions with a team to match.

    Psychological factors are all too easy to throw around simply because they are nebulous, difficult to prove.
    And anecdotally, they're an easy outball for manager and players to cite.

    Sure, blame motivation or confidence for your own lack of performance, better to have fans (and yourself) believe that because then you leave open the possibility of improvement.

    But never, ever admit that you might not be good enough. Because once you admit that, there's no comeback. May as well admit you don't deserve the fat wage you're pulling down.

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    I believe there is a developing gulf in class, but look at sides beneath us in the league that have shown far more fight against the top sides than us. Ribery stated today that he was surprised how easy it was for them, I think this is because Wenger doesn't want to admit he's not coaching the same team as he was two years ago in terms of quality.
    Podolski and Giroud are not Van Persie, Arteta and Ramsey are not Fabregas and Nasri and in order to get the same results in the same games these players need not just an arm round the shoulder and told to show their quality (that word has as much meaning to me as the name Annakin Skywalker had for Darth Vader) they need drilling to show fight more than quality. To really grind out games, than the results like Swansea and Blackburn at home may not be as prevalent and against Bayern even if we had lost anyway we would have at least looked like we give a shit.

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    if we had no fight at all and didn't react in the latter stages of games then i'd buy into the fact we were completely useless. however, games away to city, chelsea and the tottenham reaction show that there is something in there. not enough to win or challenge for the title but certainly better than we see most weeks. that reaction comes from inside the head, digging deep to do something but not having the mental strength to believe in it from the beginning.

    coming back from adversity takes a different kind of mental strength to do that rather than take the bull by the horns and take charge.

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