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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    So a young kid on whose shoulders the fortunes of a billion quid club has been pinned has a bad day at the office and now it's time to slaughter him? If Wilshere isn't Messi then add every other player in the world to that list of failure (except for Bale who is better than Messi). Wilshere gets hyped by the press because he's English and we've had to put up with overhyped shit like Lampard and Gerrard for years - players who fail at every significant hurdle on the International stage. Believe the hype if you want but don't slaughter the kid because a game of such huge importance got to him.

    He's also stepped on a pitch with Barcelona and outplayed the best in the business, again no reason for the hype but don't ignore it either. The kid has huge talent and huge potential and anyone who disputes that has an agenda. Can he carry the likes of Walcott, Giroud, Ramsey and Diaby every game? Why would we expect him to? Nobody could do that, not even Messi. Stick Messi in this Arsenal team and he'd have his off days too, because the shit we have could drag anyone down.
    Outplay is what fabregas did at 18 in the bernabau and 19 at old trafford.

    Completing like 12 passes and not looking out of place is not outplaying. How can an attacking midfielder whos scored one league goal this season be carrying something? Lol

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    I'm not one for BONBONs left field theories but Cesc was streets ahead of Wheelchair at the same age. There's no doubting Jack will be great but unfortunately for him he's been placed on pedestal because both Arsenal and England need a saviour.

    It's vital we buy a quality midfielder to ease the burden. Ramzi and Diaby are not the answer and Arteta is not going to get any better.

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    Jack's quality without a doubt. Just holds on to the ball a bit too long - needs to start finding those incisive passes more often instead of trying to go it alone or making that extra dribble.

    Some more attempts at goal from in and around the 18 yard box would probably help his dismal goalscoring stats too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringBoringArsenal View Post
    Wonder what the charges will be?
    He will be charged in a Technical Law Term called "throwing a banana at a monkey faced Cu#t"

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOBN View Post
    I dont see jenkinson as a particularly hard worker.

    "Effort" is just the phantom stick football fans use to prop up the players they like and beat the players they dont, and as its quite hard to measure they get away with it. Its actually cowardly, just say you have a crush on jenkinson for whatever reason and that you dont like walcott. There is zero evidence to suggest jenkinson outworks others but I am confident no other premiership side would touch he as he is technically inept.

    Notice how even when he is shyt, wilshere is "the only one trying". Did he work any harder than monreal or arteta yesterday or any other day? People see what they wanna see.
    It's also people actually see what's happening on the pitch. You seem to be comparing Jenkinson to some vision of what you (and all of us no doubt) would like to see at the club. Fair enough, if we were up there competing at the top it would imply we had better players than Jenkinson in the team. Trouble is we aren't up there competing, we're floundering. Yes, maybe because we have players like Jenkinson in the team as opposed to a Lauren or Cole. But when you compare him to what we actually have he's more than good enough to play in our shite outfit. And he seems to love doing it too which is more than can be said or the ****s just here for the cash and the springboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BOBN View Post
    Outplay is what fabregas did at 18 in the bernabau and 19 at old trafford.

    Completing like 12 passes and not looking out of place is not outplaying. How can an attacking midfielder whos scored one league goal this season be carrying something? Lol
    Wilshere is nothing special because he's not Fabregas? What sort of an argument is that? Not being Fabregas doesn't stop him being a good player and there's little doubt he's a good player. Certainly the stand out in our team at present. Granted he's playing in the worst team we've had in decades but there'd be no shortage of top clubs lining up for his signature of he wanted away. That tell enough of the story to put the debate to bed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Wilshere is nothing special because he's not Fabregas? What sort of an argument is that? Not being Fabregas doesn't stop him being a good player and there's little doubt he's a good player. Certainly the stand out in our team at present. Granted he's playing in the worst team we've had in decades but there'd be no shortage of top clubs lining up for his signature of he wanted away. That tell enough of the story to put the debate to bed.
    When you hold him up in that sort of light, can't see some of the faults in his game but see it clearly in everyone else's it becomes a problem and people start creating an image of player that never was, similar what we've seen in the past. Jack has guts and passion for the team but he has some technical flaws he needs to iron out before he can lead the team. None of the current midfield players are essential to the squad because they're not gelling or keeping things ticking. It's all disjointed and forget Cesc, none of them have even come close to the sort of level Song was playing at last season and despite the assists, that wasn't even Song at his best. When playing deeper, he kept things ticking with simple passes from the back and bossed it. Arteta, Caz, Jack, Ramsey, Diaby....they just haven't been great this season and in my opinion, we'd Rosicky should be shoving one of them out of the team. We looked in terrible shape last season and until Ramsey got injured and Rosicky came in, we went on a run and started looking like a better side. We need that sort of influence from one player and if we can't get it from Rosicky then Wenger needs to search the market. Get Inler and Hamsik from Napoli or goodness knows whose out there available. But as far as I'm concerned, Jack and the rest of them are a long way from giving us that cutting edge.

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    Wilshere may as well have been subbed in the second half because through his nonsensical substitutions, Wenger took him out of the game. Putting Ramsey at right back and taking Arteta off meant he had to push back away from their area, so by the end he couldn't offer us anything going forward. When he was around their area though he turned down some opportunities to shoot, which he needs to start accepting, particularly as nobody else in our team has a hope in hell of scoring from our aimless passing in front of their defensive line.

    Ramsey might not have been too bad, but he still slows the play down all the time and more often than not plays a diagonally backwards ball. I thought we were screwed as soon as I saw Mertesacker in the starting 11, why Koscielny doesn't start when he's clearly our best CB (not saying much, mind) I can't figure out.

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    best one was taking jenkinson off, who was bombing forward and is probably our best crosser, and sticking ramsey there.

    and we have a 6 ft 4 striker leading the attack. what's he supposed to feed off? doritos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon View Post
    best one was taking jenkinson off, who was bombing forward and is probably our best crosser, and sticking ramsey there.

    and we have a 6 ft 4 striker leading the attack. what's he supposed to feed off? doritos?
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