Next Arsenal manager?

[Power n Glory]

Tactics, motivation and organisation...there are mangers out there that have that along with good records in other league and Europe. Neither Moyes or Laudrup are ideal candidates but I'd pick Laudrop because his history as a player adds a lot of weight to what he says when coaching. He has played with the biggest clubs in the world and earned the respect of the best. That will count for a lot when coaching players. He also comes from the school of Total Football and has a style that is very close to what we play here. But he still has a lot to prove. But I could almost respect the Board taking a risk on a young manager that was one of the world's best in the 90s and coached by a legend/ played alongside legends. Maybe they'd see him as the next big manager like Pep...who knows but I could at least respect that sort of risk. Moyes would seem like a safe bet and safety net appointment. Gret with money and a top 10 finish guaranteed. It's like Arsene now. Little risk involved just stability and good balancing of the books. I'd be well worried if we went and got Moyes. We should be aiming higher than both of these guys in truth but if we're going for someone untested and at a smaller club, it should be someone that at least was well respected as a player and has that total football philosophy.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Tactics, motivation and organisation...there are mangers out there that have that along with good records in other league and Europe. Neither Moyes or Laudrup are ideal candidates but I'd pick Laudrop because his history as a player adds a lot of weight to what he says when coaching. He has played with the biggest clubs in the world and earned the respect of the best. That will count for a lot when coaching players. He also comes from the school of Total Football and has a style that is very close to what we play here. But he still has a lot to prove. But I could almost respect the Board taking a risk on a young manager that was one of the world's best in the 90s and coached by a legend/ played alongside legends. Maybe they'd see him as the next big manager like Pep...who knows but I could at least respect that sort of risk. Moyes would seem like a safe bet and safety net appointment. Gret with money and a top 10 finish guaranteed. It's like Arsene now. Little risk involved just stability and good balancing of the books. I'd be well worried if we went and got Moyes. We should be aiming higher than both of these guys in truth but if we're going for someone untested and at a smaller club, it should be someone that at least was well respected as a player and has that total football philosophy.

can you name me some realistic candidates then? and managers you actually know about in terms of tactics, motivation and organisation, i dont just want a list of fantasised names who you assume achieve the criteria and you dont actually know much about, because i think you'll find its harder than you think.

and i still find it laughable you wax lyrics about laudrup, who has been here for 1 season and took a team who had everything set in place, yet disregard moyes, who took everton from nothing and has been doing it for almost a decade. but moyes is no lord laudrup! if only his name was moyesinho and he was a bit more suave!

[Power n Glory]

Isn’t Moyes one the longest serving Prem bosses behind Wenger and Fergie? When you have that sort of job stability when clubs like Villa, Newcastle, West Ham, Fulham keep chopping and changing managers it works in your favour. Tony Pulis will be able to maintain a good league position record if the Stoke Board and fans don’t rock the boat.

He’s qualified for the Europa League on a number of occasions and he’s never done well in the competition. He’s also never won any of the domestic cups. Those aren’t good signs to me. There are other candidates out there that are doing similar things in other leagues on small budgets but beating some of Europe’s finest and winning cups. I wouldn’t be able to name them all because I don’t watch enough of the other leagues but I’m sure a few people on here could probably help out. Either way, Wenger wouldn't have been on the fans radar when we first signed him but he at least won the French League before he arrived here. Moyes hasn't won anything or done well in Europe to be such a dead cert here.

[LDG]

We should be looking for a top draw manager, and paying accordingly. Nothing but the best will do, so all this talk of Moyes and other mediocre managers is rubbish, IMO.

[Kano]

but a top tier manager would want a decent budget and support to succeed, not to come in and play the company line and do the minimum. the top tier guys won't be interested in that at all.

we're looking at tier two type managers, or those that have a record of overachieving on smaller resources.

[Cripps_orig]

It'll be one of Garde or Stojkovic I think his name is.

Both are Wenger protégés who will move upstairs. Both will toe the company line. Nothing will change. The only question is how much they want in wages and who ever is cheapest will get it.

[Power n Glory]

but a top tier manager would want a decent budget and support to succeed, not to come in and play the company line and do the minimum. the top tier guys won't be interested in that at all.

we're looking at tier two type managers, or those that have a record of overachieving on smaller resources.

And Moyes isn't a tier two type. Maybe someone that has done well in the Europa league and won domestic cups at least whilst having a good league record. Or an International manager ready for club football.

[Kano]

that's why i said OR someone who has a good record of overachieving on small resources.

that is one of the biggest criteria they will be looking at.

[Marc Overmars]

Not fussed about Moyes although I would like to see how he'd fare with money to spend. A glittering CV is not the be all and end all for me, it's just about the right person. I haven't given it huge thought who I'd like to replace Wenget, but one things for sure is that we currently aren't getting anywhere with him in charge. I'm optimistic enough to believe that with the resources we have and the fact Arsenal is still a big draw, we have a good chance of improving under a lot of potentially suitable managers.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Isn’t Moyes one the longest serving Prem bosses behind Wenger and Fergie? When you have that sort of job stability when clubs like Villa, Newcastle, West Ham, Fulham keep chopping and changing managers it works in your favour. Tony Pulis will be able to maintain a good league position record if the Stoke Board and fans don’t rock the boat.

He’s qualified for the Europa League on a number of occasions and he’s never done well in the competition. He’s also never won any of the domestic cups. Those aren’t good signs to me. There are other candidates out there that are doing similar things in other leagues on small budgets but beating some of Europe’s finest and winning cups. I wouldn’t be able to name them all because I don’t watch enough of the other leagues but I’m sure a few people on here could probably help out. Either way, Wenger wouldn't have been on the fans radar when we first signed him but he at least won the French League before he arrived here. Moyes hasn't won anything or done well in Europe to be such a dead cert here.

so you cant name any. in other words, you lambast moyes for his achievements but you cannot even name other notable replacements.

thats what i call a weak argument.

our discussion is done.