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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    Means nothing to me.

    If Bayern had needed to win the game, they would have. This is like papering over the cracks with value brand loo roll.
    I see where you are coming from - but I would temper this by their amazing record both in terms of home defeats and of goals scored. The tempo was slow, yes, but Bayern are a top top team and playing at home in front of 68,000 fans. We are undoubtedly a mediocre team, but taking this game in isolation, I am prepared to cut our back 5 some slack for their efforts.
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    The defence played well. There were no major individual mistakes which makes a change. Expected Fabs to flap at a corner or butter fingers up a shot or two but he didn't. Some good tackles from the defence and no crazy mix ups with positioning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    The defence played well. There were no major individual mistakes which makes a change.
    There were, we just weren't punished for them. Perhaps not as bad as some of the mistakes we've made but there were some, a few clearances which fell straight to a Bayern player, etc.

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    I think the shape of the team was better, Bayern only managed to get in behind us once and that was with Mullers clever backheel to set Robben free. Other than that we mainly limited them to pot shots from outside the box.

    Overall though I do believe Bayern would have moved up a gear if they were facing a better side or if they weren't already in a commanding position.

    We scored from the only 2 attempts on target we had, it was an efficient performance rather than one filled with quality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I think the shape of the team was better, Bayern only managed to get in behind us once and that was with Mullers clever backheel to set Robben free. Other than that we mainly limited them to pot shots from outside the box.

    Overall though I do believe Bayern would have moved up a gear if they were facing a better side or if they weren't already in a commanding position.
    i think it is far too easy to say that. teams have off days, no matter who they. the gears can't always be clicked through like magic at the touch of a button. if you start the game with the wrong approach, and by all accounts they did, then that task becomes harder. going 1-0 down at the start would have course set off some alarm bells for them and if they weren't interested, they literally would've just played keep ball. they're a great team who can destroy most teams and i believe with their habits, why wouldn't they want to have fun smashing yet another team in front of their home fans? they wanted to of course, but they couldn't. we contributed to that. hard to believe i know, but we did. let's just enjoy a victory. there's no shame. it doesn't mean any lasting change or any cosmic shift in wenger's team but we're allowed to take satisfaction from beating one of the worlds best teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    There were, we just weren't punished for them. Perhaps not as bad as some of the mistakes we've made but there were some, a few clearances which fell straight to a Bayern player, etc.
    I’m not saying it was perfect. There were minor errors but nothing major or comical like we’ve seen in the past where there is poor marking, awareness and we fail to do the very basics. Still a long road to go but they were switched on at the back at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I’m not saying it was perfect. There were minor errors but nothing major or comical like we’ve seen in the past where there is poor marking, awareness and we fail to do the very basics. Still a long road to go but they were switched on at the back at least.
    Yes, it was definitely better. They only got in behind us once when Robben broke free, most of the rest of their chances were pot-shots from distance which were generally well closed down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBK View Post
    I see where you are coming from - but I would temper this by their amazing record both in terms of home defeats and of goals scored. The tempo was slow, yes, but Bayern are a top top team and playing at home in front of 68,000 fans. We are undoubtedly a mediocre team, but taking this game in isolation, I am prepared to cut our back 5 some slack for their efforts.
    i agree with that. i think it is far too easy to say that if bayern wanted to hammer us they could've. well given how professional and clinical those fuckers are, my guess is that they sure as hell wanted to pound us again. they obviously expected it to be easier and started with the wrong mentality and our organised defence kept them outside of our box for most of the game. i'm also convinced that they for two years they have had their fair share of dodgy performances yet always had enough to roll over the opposition, no matter who they are, so of course we deserve credit for a victory there. teams start games with the wrong approach, as we all know from our experiences, and the point is to take advantage of that, which we did. it is still bayern, no set of mugs, so a 3-0 win no matter what their performance is bloody hard task no matter who it is.

    we fucked up in the first leg, pure and simple. the start of our second half at the emirates and our more organised approach show that we could and should've made more of a game of the first leg, which is where we messed everything up as usual.

    people are right to say we should be turning up in the first leg/half of ties, that is obvious. we've all seen that pain this year. but if the team do as, and if not better, than expected, then i think it's fair to still give credit where it is due. otherwise we never will and everything, absolutely everything, becomes bitter, sad and an absolutely horrible experience. pretty pointless to. football is supposed to be fun in part.

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    I am going to post my reaction to the score as I havent seen the match yet.

    First I would like to say well done to the lads for putting a bit of pride back into the club (I do not know who played shit so the message goes to the whole team), I hoped that we would be able to put in somewhat of a credible performance and we seemed to have done that.

    However, as with the season as a whole we did ourselves no favours in the first leg and until we can stop being a walking brain fart of a club, things may never change.

    I said at the start of the season that even if we won every trophy available I would consider the way we prepared for the start as a failure, the selling off and failure to replace key members of our starting eleven handicapped us beyond repair. How a team can go into a four front season with one recognised striker (some doubt Giroud is even that and Walcott was still plying his trade out wide come season start) is ridiculous.

    We must learn, whether its the board, manager or team. . .until we cease with putting ourselves at a disadvantage the trophyless seasons will continue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz View Post
    i agree with that. i think it is far too easy to say that if bayern wanted to hammer us they could've. well given how professional and clinical those fuckers are, my guess is that they sure as hell wanted to pound us again. they obviously expected it to be easier and started with the wrong mentality and our organised defence kept them outside of our box for most of the game. i'm also convinced that they for two years they have had their fair share of dodgy performances yet always had enough to roll over the opposition, no matter who they are, so of course we deserve credit for a victory there. teams start games with the wrong approach, as we all know from our experiences, and the point is to take advantage of that, which we did. it is still bayern, no set of mugs, so a 3-0 win no matter what their performance is bloody hard task no matter who it is.

    we fucked up in the first leg, pure and simple. the start of our second half at the emirates and our more organised approach show that we could and should've made more of a game of the first leg, which is where we messed everything up as usual.

    people are right to say we should be turning up in the first leg/half of ties, that is obvious. we've all seen that pain this year. but if the team do as, and if not better, than expected, then i think it's fair to still give credit where it is due. otherwise we never will and everything, absolutely everything, becomes bitter, sad and an absolutely horrible experience. pretty pointless to. football is supposed to be fun in part.
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