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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    We need to get the praise in check. He's not world class and has yet to stamp his authority on that midfield position. He's not vital to that position or someone who we need to keep things ticking over. We've missed Rosicky's presence more and you see the difference when he's playing. If we lose Rosicky next year we'll need to buy a midfield maestro that can fill that gap because Jack, Cazorla and Arteta aren't enough.
    He (jack) might not be exactly vital just yet, but remember he's only 21 and has been bugged with injuries which have deprived him of action for most of his short professional career. I have no doubt that if he can overcome injuries and stay fit, he'll be the lynch pin of our team in very short order.

    As for Rosicky, a player whom I've always highly rated, no one is questioning his directness in play (something which Jack is widely known for as well), but I'm sure there have been games where he also looked completely out of sorts and wasn't exactly causing things to tick in our midfield. Therefore, I won't place too much expectations on him till he can put together a consistent run of being a bit of a maestro in the middle of the park.

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    PS some folks can spot raw talent from a mile away, even before a player has fully honed and developed his abilities.

    I unreservedly state that the only thing that can stop Jack being truly world class is injury. The kid has every attribute required to be a top level footballer.

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    Wilshere is being ridiculously overhyped. There is a great deal of promise with him, and occasionally we see flashes of what he is capable of. However at his stage of development, he should be an understudy, but there is no one at the Club to help him and aid his development. We have a real genuine talent, but are we equipped to help him fully realise it?

    I don't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringBoringArsenal View Post
    PS some folks can spot raw talent from a mile away, even before a player has fully honed and developed his abilities.

    I unreservedly state that the only thing that can stop Jack being truly world class is injury. The kid has every attribute required to be a top level footballer.
    Joe Cole! He had raw talent and was hyped in much the same way Jack is now. Lord knows what happened to Cole but he was an exceptional technical player and most had high hopes for him but it just didn't pan out for him.

    Raw talent isn't enough sometimes and Jack still has a lot to learn. This hasn't been Jack's Arsenal defining season and I hate the way the papers are trying to set it up that way. We lack world class talent, every player has been hit and miss, but it's been a group effort with streaks of good form from Cazorla, Theo, Pod, Kos, Merts, Giroud even Gervinho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringBoringArsenal View Post
    PS some folks can spot raw talent from a mile away, even before a player has fully honed and developed his abilities.

    I unreservedly state that the only thing that can stop Jack being truly world class is injury. The kid has every attribute required to be a top level footballer.
    Agreed, about talent being easy to spot. The naturally gifted players at our club? Wilshere, head and shoulders above the rest. Arshavin could be even better but he's decided against being a footballer. Ox, oozes talent but like Jack it has to be developed and directed. Then there's... hmmm... lemme see. Nobody else.

    Rosicky, Podolski, Cazorla fall into the "almost" bracket. They are technically accomplished but they don't demonstrate the instinctive talent of the previous three. All very good players though. Gibbs might be edging in here, not as a defender but more advanced, wide.

    Further down the line, players who have to work harder at it. Arteta, Chesney, Sagna, maybe this Monreal guy (he looks a pretty solid defender), I'm putting Ramsey here because he'll bust a gut in between the howlers and there are flashes of talent. Thinking hard now. Kos? Like Ramsey, a potential disaster zone but he can also be decent.

    And then the dog shit. Either because they are wildly inconsistent to the point of being harmful, of because they are so technically gash or stupid they don't really deserve to be on a football pitch.

    Giroud (fucking useless full stop), Diaby (kills us with his stupidity despite being technical), Walcott (Mr mouth himself), Gervinho (pointless player who can only deliver a final ball by accident), Mertesacker (so slow it's beyond belief), Vermaelen (mostly because he seems incapable of learning from mistakes), Flappy (tries but lets' face it, he's shit), and I probably missed a few out.

    With an endless budget I'd keep Jack and Ox, maybe Cazorla and Podolski (Rosicky too injury prone). The rest I'd fuck out the door so fast they'd leave their shadows behind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Joe Cole! He had raw talent and was hyped in much the same way Jack is now. Lord knows what happened to Cole but he was an exceptional technical player and most had high hopes for him but it just didn't pan out for him.

    Raw talent isn't enough sometimes and Jack still has a lot to learn. This hasn't been Jack's Arsenal defining season and I hate the way the papers are trying to set it up that way. We lack world class talent, every player has been hit and miss, but it's been a group effort with streaks of good form from Cazorla, Theo, Pod, Kos, Merts, Giroud even Gervinho.
    Food for thought. Its a sign of where we are that papers and pundits thought that Jack's injury would bury our season.
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    Rosicky, Podolski, Cazorla fall into the "almost" bracket. They are technically accomplished but they don't demonstrate the instinctive talent of the previous three. All very good players though. Gibbs might be edging in here, not as a defender but more advanced, wide.
    Get the fuck out of here!

    Jack and Ox haven't done shit to be mentioned above these three. Past or present. How can you that haven't demonstrated instinctive talent this season, especially when compared to the two players you hold them against. We've hardly missed Jack and Ox this season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Get the fuck out of here!

    Jack and Ox haven't done shit to be mentioned above these three. Past or present.
    I'm talking about talent, not what they have done. The person I was responding mentioned it's easy to spot talent, and it is.
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    If we're talking strictly about talent, it's pretty insane to put anyone above Cazorla.

    Never mind when we talk about putting into practice.

    And Arshavin has always been too technically ragged to be up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    I'm talking about talent, not what they have done. The person I was responding mentioned it's easy to spot talent, and it is.
    And Rosicky wasn't a talent when he was Jack's age? Or Pod wasn't touted as a dangerous German talent when younger? As said, they are all technically gifted players and all have talent. After that it gets done to the 'demonstrated' part you mentioned and that boils down to performance on the pitch. I don't know how you can put those three below Jack on Ox when neither can hit a pass or shot as well as these guys or turn a game around like they can. It's too much hype and they've yet to prove it.

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