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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    If we were to win a couple of trophies, maybe even a league title in the next 2/3 seasons, would judas count face still have been vindicated in leaving a year or two early?


    (And don't reply with what's the point, we won't win anything ever again in the history of the world, it's a hypothetical question)
    If we win 2 trebles and a quadruple and Man U get relegated and have to sell off all their stars, then we'll have the upper hand.

    We're 2% away from achieving this right now.

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    It's a bit of a hard one this.

    On a pure career perspective you can't blame Van Persie. I don't think he was driven by money but a clear desire to win trophies before he retired which we all honestly know he wasn't going to do so here. A player of his talent can't really only have one Fa Cup trophy to his name. Perhaps I'm naive but I honestly think he would have stayed if we were at the level we were 8 years ago and seriously challenging for the league instead of scrapping into the top four.

    However we, the club and the fans, did stick by with him through so much bullshit over the years.

    - When he was missing back to back seasons with long term injuries
    - When he was arrested for rape back in Holland
    - Was accused of racism by David Sommeil
    - When he went through that petty childish streak early on his career involving getting sent of against Southampton for a childish tackle

    A lot of other clubs, certainly the more ruthless one like a Man City or Chelsea, wouldn't have tolerated that and would have discarded him ages ago - something he may have never recovered from. You'll like to think he would have shown more loyalty and respect for that. At the very least he should have signed a new contract earlier on we at the very least could have extracted the maximum fee out of him - 24 million in today's market is a complete joke especially considering he's practically won the league for his new club.

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    Clubs rarely discard top players whatever they do, TEG. Take City with Tevez last year.
    Fergie wouldn't have put up with that, lots of clubs do though.

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    I think Fergie would have put up with it considering the the stunt Rooney pulled with his contract talks, his form, weight issues and conduct outside of the club. Rio Ferdinand is another example. The parties, drugs scandal, injuries....if you're good, you'll get away with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I hope he's not going to eat that dog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    I hope he's not going to eat that dog.
    Indians don't eat dogs, you racist.


    They do eat their young though.

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    The only thing I don't understand to this day is why Van Persie chose to damage his reputation by announcing on his website that he didn't agree with the club policy and that he won't be signing a new contract. If we weren't going to sell him, that wouldn't have stopped us. And if were going to sell him, he didn't need to do it and could've kept the respect of the arsenal fans knowing it was purely araenal's decision to sell. You guys like to argue about loads of stupid things but I haven't heard a logical reason for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    The only thing I don't understand to this day is why Van Persie chose to damage his reputation by announcing on his website that he didn't agree with the club policy and that he won't be signing a new contract. If we weren't going to sell him, that wouldn't have stopped us. And if were going to sell him, he didn't need to do it and could've kept the respect of the arsenal fans knowing it was purely araenal's decision to sell. You guys like to argue about loads of stupid things but I haven't heard a logical reason for this.
    After the talks he held with the board and Wenget, maybe he harbored some resentment towards them? I can't remember exactly what he said but didn't PHW also come out and allude to him possibly being after the money, which he might have taken exception to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    After the talks he held with the board and Wenget, maybe he harbored some resentment towards them? I can't remember exactly what he said but didn't PHW also come out and allude to him possibly being after the money, which he might have taken exception to?
    But that's still not the way you would get back at them. Nobody believed him, amongst other things of course he wants more money - everyone does. He could've got a bigger pay by getting another 30 and leaving as a free agent. There's not a single club that wouldn't pay over the odds on his wages if they could get him for free. The way to get back at the club was by saying "I really want to stay but the club want to sell me"...how much anger would there have been directed at the club then?

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