Have you seen the crop of attacking players that Brasil are producing these days. Rather have a DM or a Defender from Brasil, than an attacking player.Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Have you seen the crop of attacking players that Brasil are producing these days. Rather have a DM or a Defender from Brasil, than an attacking player.
doesn't that say more for their previous manager dunga who wanted more defensive minded players? he was there for a good 4/5 years. jadson's career seems to have started earlier this year and was used during copa.
You can pass on who you like its AW who makes the signings if he wants him he'll get him.
Have you seen the crop of attacking players Arsenal are producing these days?
Straight answer - a player knocking around in the Ukranian league is far more likely than not to be some way away from being able to adapt immediately to the Premiership. Why? Simply because a) I'm willing to bet that the style/pace of the game is very different to the EPL. b) Fitness levels are likely to be very different. c) He will hardly be likely to be used to playing against top players. In other words - yet another developmental player - who fits the failed AW mould.
have a fgo at me for moaning, by all means, but please don't pretend that a player from the Ukranian league is the best prospect that we have for our team. And i am not even a serial moaner. i am just sick of selling off the family silver in return for an alchemy kit that is as likely to fail as not.
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He has European experience at least. Arshavin came from the Russian league and he's fine, it's just his fitness and Wenger playing him on the wings that's the problem.
Questioning the Ukraine leagues quality is a bit of insult considering these guys beat us, topped our CL group and won the UEFA Cup. We should be more worried about Wenger's ability to get the guy settled and adjusted. If we don't think he's the right player for us then that is cool, but forget all that talk about him not being able to adjust because he's from another league. That says more about Wenger's coaching ability if anything.
Agree. The ukranian teams play a very high tempo games and is physical as well. This is not to say that he will not take time to adapt, but in my opinion would be a good buy. It will be great if we can add Martin and a one of Cahill or Jagielka . From what i have seen martin's a cross between Iniesta and Cesc fast, great close control, trickery vision and passing has the potential to be better than Cesc, which means him coming here is tough.
for real. the guy has also played for brazil a few times not so? shaktar as a team were excellent over the last two seasons especially for a team without a lot of 'brand name' players on their side. every player is a gamble but i feel that this guy just might be the little piece that gets us really ticking over. if we can couple some offensive power with some defensive stability (pray that kos and verms keep steady) then i think we can have a good season.
oh. Scratches it off place to live, tbh after The Reform restaurant closed the allure has been tarnished.
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"After all, it was the Gunners’ goalkeeper who started the move that culminated in Thomas’ crowning glory. It was Lukic who, in injury time, decided to throw the ball out to Lee Dixon rather than lump it long..."
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...s-2336087.html
So, looks like Nasri may also be gone today as well.Arsene Wenger is convinced that the £12m purchase of Jadson, a Brazilian midfielder in the Cesc Fabregas mould, will enable Arsenal to build from their summer wreckage, as Manchester City hold out hope that £22m Samir Nasri could be their player in time to field him against Swansea City on Monday night.
Jadson, a tough, compact, 27-year-old attacking midfielder, revealed his capacity for goals in this summer's Copa America, though his arrival from Shakhtar Donetsk as a replacement for Fabregas – who is likely to follow Nasri out of the Emirates next week – will do little to lift the spirits of Arsenal supporters.
The Independent understands that manager Wenger was powerless to hold on to Nasri after a board meeting eight days ago at which principal shareholder Stan Kroenke insisted that it would be folly to sacrifice City's money and see the Frenchman leave as a free agent next summer. Wenger did not put up a fight and City hope to announce the signing of the player imminently.
City must lodge the transfer documents with the Premier League by midday today if they are to field the 24-year-old against the newly promoted Welsh side.
Confirmation is expected today of Nasri's five-year City deal, under which Nasri will earn around £165,000 a week – almost double the £90,000-a-week new deal he was offered to stay in north London.
With Fabregas likely to be on the way to Barcelona for a fee of €34m (£29.8m) paid up front and up to €6m in add-ons, Shakhtar's representatives were in London yesterday to discuss the sale of Jadson.
Though he is the best of the clutch of Brazilians at the Ukrainian club, a £12m deal would make them a £9m profit on the sum paid to Brazilian club side Atletico-PR in 2005. Jadson's spectacular goal against Paraguay for Brazil in the Copa America revealed his goal-scoring prowess and he is likely to be deployed in an advanced role in front of Jack Wilshere and Alex Song in the Arsenal midfield.
Few will see Jadson as a like-for-like replacement for Fabregas, despite his physical similarities to the Spaniard, and at 27 he is not the next big thing in Brazil. But Jadson arrives with the advantage of being ready to launch straight into the season, having been heavily involved in the Ukrainian campaign, which is well under way. He said yesterday: "If everything goes to plan, I'll have some news for everyone at the start of next week. Hope it works out."
City have been reluctant to discuss their moves for Nasri. The club are highly sensitive about the image of them using their wealth to take players without the customary diplomacy towards the clubs they are taking them from.
The City manager Roberto Mancini's public discussion of the Frenchman earlier this summer did not help their image. But although Nasri's departure will increase the number of Arsenal players who have moved to Eastlands to four – Emmanuel Adebayor, Kolo Touré, Gaël Clichy and Nasri – negotiations between the two clubs were said to be amicable yesterday.
Nasri's arrival may not halt City's moves for Fiorentina winger Alessio Cerci. Though a deal to bring in the 24-year-old is not imminent, the player is one whom Mancini has personally pushed to secure, and a Fiorentina valuation of £6m is not considered to represent a major gamble. Cerci is keen to leave the Serie A club following a falling-out with the manager, Sinisa Mihajlovic.
Arsenal have opened preliminary discussions with Birmingham City over the signing of £8m defender Scott Dann. Bolton are working to come closer to meeting Shaun Wright-Phillips' £70,000-a-week wage demands.
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