Fabregas goes to Barca for £35million

[Elreactor]

But what is the fucking exatc price for this cunt to finally leave for the cunt-matrix? Less than 30M? I can´t believe they even talked about him "forgiving" the 4M that Arsenal should pay him, because he didn´t request the transfer? This is sickening, Barcelona who are ridiculously rich, get a highly valued player for some pennies (because no matter he contributed SHIT to win anything at Arsenal, he should be very expensive).

But still, Barcelona paid 26 + 11.5 add ons for some Alexis Sanchez, more than for their life long target Fartegas?

Of course, paying 15M for a certain Alex Malibu-Stacy, and now this other Jadson who suddenly is a top class player, will pave the way to glory. Surely they are the famous "right players at the right price".

[Niall_Quinn]

Fabregas wanting to go was irrelevant, he'd signed a contract. Barcelona being the only team bidding is irrelevant. The price was £40mill. The club set that prices and then caved in, a horrendous message to send for all our future transfer dealings. We'll pay for this transfer time and time again, starting with RvP next season and Wilshere after that. We've pretty much given out a blueprint of how to fuck us over in the transfer market. Wenger is weak, so is the board. Their legs go to jelly whenever they sniff money coming in. This will be another year of making profits in the transfer window, by a club supposedly competing for trophies. Like hell we are, you don't go on a 5 year program of weakening the team if you are serious about winning. It's all about the money and has been for a long time.

[Niall_Quinn]

Btw, what about the targets we've supposedly been after? Everton and Bolton have stuck firm on their in-contract players, even the ones with just a year left on their contract. So if it's inevitable that a player wants to leave why aren't Everton and Bolton caving on the price? These clubs have had no other offers, so they say. Why can't we just offer £5mill and then wait for the "inevitable?" Fabregas will probably be worth £80mill the minute he pulls a Barcelona shirt on.

[Ernesto]

Fabregas wanting to go was irrelevant, he'd signed a contract. Barcelona being the only team bidding is irrelevant. The price was £40mill. The club set that prices and then caved in, a horrendous message to send for all our future transfer dealings. We'll pay for this transfer time and time again, starting with RvP next season and Wilshere after that. We've pretty much given out a blueprint of how to fuck us over in the transfer market. Wenger is weak, so is the board. Their legs go to jelly whenever they sniff money coming in. This will be another year of making profits in the transfer window, by a club supposedly competing for trophies. Like hell we are, you don't go on a 5 year program of weakening the team if you are serious about winning. It's all about the money and has been for a long time.

Excellent post, yet again.

A bit of a side topic, but when do you reckon booing the team is justified? Should a sh!t result against Liverpool on Saturday (and I'm talking even scraping a draw here) entice the more vociferous fans to air their views (or boos, so to speak)?

The pressure was on Roy Hodgson at Anfield from day one last season. We all said the Scousers were silly, and that Arsenal and Wenger were a far cry from that, but do you reckon we have reached that sort of breaking point with our manager?

[Niall_Quinn]

I don't think the team is responsible for the transfer policy and I bet a lot of the players are just as frustrated as the fans. RvP has already started to make noise about strengthening the team, so have Theo and Arshavin. So has Wilshere. These players won't hang around to see the club sink lower. It's the board that needs to be booed, they are ultimately responsible. Wenger answers to them and they do nothing expect express how much they support him. So they as much as say our continued decline is acceptable and that's a perfectly valid reason for any fan who expects a lot more than mediocrity from the highest charging club in the world to boo loud and clear.

[Darth Vela]

I think if we draw with Liverpool there'll be boos or at least a chorus of 'spend some fucking money', it just seems standard operating procedure nowdays that anything less than a win is unacceptable and should be greeted with nothing but derision.

It's completely different to Hodgson as that was his first season, Wenger has now failed for 3 years straight imo (whilst still maintaining a reasonable standard, it should be noted), more in some other peoples eyes; there's a good majority close or past the breaking point already here.

[Cripps_orig]

I am 100% with you as far as the price tag goes. It's a really shit deal as far as Arsenal are concerned and they could've got £40mil out of Barcelona.

However, I'm just not entirely sure just how much Wenger had to do with the deal as far as numbers are concerned. I'm convinced that he tried to get Fabregas to stay hence fulfilling his duty as a manager but is it really down to him to start discussing just how much we will sell him for?

Long gone are the days where David Dein would come out against the media and say "xxxxx is not for sale at any price" (the xxxxx normally meaning Patrick Vieira). What's more, we'd have faith in Dein's words.

Now, I just don't know what's happening behind the scenes.

Wenger has a lot of say in too much shit at this club and no doubt he had a say in letting Cesc go. We all know what happened

Cunt 1 (Cesc) - Please Arsene, you are like my adopted father but please let me go to the blood of my blood and back home to my real family.

Cunt 2 (Wenger) - Non you will not go for less than £40m so either tell ur Barcunt friends to pay up or stfu tbh but lets face it, you havent told them to stfu yet so why start now?

Cunt 1 - If you let me go, i promise to never reveal those pictures of you and Eboue and a certain tiger suit involved.

Cunt 2 - Oh shit, i didnt know you knew about that. Il have a word with the money grabbng cunts (Board) and get a deal done asap.

Few hours later in the boardroom

Cunt 2 - I feel it is in the best interest of this club if we let cunt 1 go asap. He is unhappy and im too much of a pussy to be tough on my players and instead prefer bending over for them. I just hope my asshole is big enough for Cesc and Barcas cock.

Money grabbing cunts - What do you suggest? We accept their offer? The fans wont be happy.

Cunt 2 - Who gives a fuck about the fans?

MGC - You speak sense. Consider it done.

True story

[Niall_Quinn]

I think if we draw with Liverpool there'll be boos or at least a chorus of 'spend some fucking money', it just seems standard operating procedure nowdays that anything less than a win is unacceptable and should be greeted with nothing but derision.

It's completely different to Hodgson as that was his first season, Wenger has now failed for 3 years straight imo (whilst still maintaining a reasonable standard, it should be noted), more in some other peoples eyes; there's a good majority close or past the breaking point already here.

I really don't think the final third of last season was in any way an acceptable standard, but I do think it highlighted what 5 years of neglect has done to the team. It's starting to look likely this negligent policy is set to be continued this year. There are plenty of reasons to complain.

I also think it's improbable we'll get anything out of our next two games which could well leave us bottom of the table on one point. Plus we could be out of the CL before it begins. I think there'll be a fair amount of booing if that happens.

[Darth Vela]

I really don't think the final third of last season was in any way an acceptable standard, but I do think it highlighted what 5 years of neglect has done to the team. It's starting to look likely this negligent policy is set to be continued this year. There are plenty of reasons to complain.

I also think it's improbable we'll get anything out of our next two games which could well leave us bottom of the table on one point. Plus we could be out of the CL before it begins. I think there'll be a fair amount of booing if that happens.

Oh, I agree with most of that, especially about the football last season, usually I can see the positives but that turgid crap we were churning out was ridiculous. There are reasons to complain but there's actually reason to be tentatively positive after the Newcastle game as well, good defensive performance and quicker play, the only thing we were lacking was a bit of sharpness () and a spark in midfield, which is kinda understandable given the guys we have out and will (hopefully) have a replacement for. In the spur of the moment you don't think about these things though, more nervous moments make for more unrest.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I think if we draw with Liverpool there'll be boos or at least a chorus of 'spend some fucking money', it just seems standard operating procedure nowdays that anything less than a win is unacceptable and should be greeted with nothing but derision.

It's completely different to Hodgson as that was his first season, Wenger has now failed for 3 years straight imo (whilst still maintaining a reasonable standard, it should be noted), more in some other peoples eyes; there's a good majority close or past the breaking point already here.

And rigtly so, We'd have the mancs in the next game and not sure we'd win that one, so we want some points on the bored sooner rather then later.

Problem is it would one of those seasons where Wenger has a moan after every game, if we draw or loose to many. At least get in that CB and Jadson before the pool game. Then take it from there.