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    Quote Originally Posted by Rors View Post
    Walk.
    I'm 50/50.

    I don't agree with those who say "well the bowlers appeal for not out decisions all the time" because when you're bowling/fielding even for less likely shouts, you simply don't know. You might not think it's out, but after all the umpire is supposed to have a better view and he can judge. Sri Lankans piss everyone off because their 'unlikely' appeals are much louder than everyone else's.

    In terms of batting, when it's a heavy nick, you do know you've got bat on it. For thin edges, it's hard to say unless you're playing with that much noise around. You certainly won't feel it - you can only hear it. And sometimes that noise is bat-pad or something else. So you don't always walk.

    Only if you're 100% sure you've touched it - and I haven't seen it but I assume this was clear cut if it went to first slip - then you probably should go. But, fuck it, I don't think I would. #yolo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    I'm 50/50.

    I don't agree with those who say "well the bowlers appeal for not out decisions all the time" because when you're bowling/fielding even for less likely shouts, you simply don't know. You might not think it's out, but after all the umpire is supposed to have a better view and he can judge. Sri Lankans piss everyone off because their 'unlikely' appeals are much louder than everyone else's.

    In terms of batting, when it's a heavy nick, you do know you've got bat on it. For thin edges, it's hard to say unless you're playing with that much noise around. You certainly won't feel it - you can only hear it. And sometimes that noise is bat-pad or something else. So you don't always walk.

    Only if you're 100% sure you've touched it - and I haven't seen it but I assume this was clear cut if it went to first slip - then you probably should go. But, fuck it, I don't think I would. #yolo
    In this situation Broad clearly hit it. It wasn't a swish where he might have hit his pad with the bat and wasn't sure himself what he'd done. So it's a definite walk here for me at least.

    Of course, we shouldn't be having this discussion as he should have been given out without a moment's hesitation. DRS has clearly had a negative effect on umpire's concentration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rors View Post
    DRS has clearly had a negative effect on umpire's concentration.
    It's crap in F1 as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    I haven't seen it but I'm looking for a youtube clip of it but no luck.

    Did he just not walk - or did he try to gesture to the umpire as if he was not out?

    If it's just the former then fair enough to him.
    He stood there and looked really sheepish in doing so. Like you say later though, this isn't a feather to the keeper, this is a big edge going off to slip.

    I just don't like it, whoever doesn't walk, in those kind of situations. It's not in the rules that you have to walk but I would have thought something about it was in the 'Spirit of the game'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost... View Post
    He stood there and looked really sheepish in doing so. Like you say later though, this isn't a feather to the keeper, this is a big edge going off to slip.

    I just don't like it, whoever doesn't walk, in those kind of situations. It's not in the rules that you have to walk but I would have thought something about it was in the 'Spirit of the game'.
    Said Spirit is "twaddle" according to Boycs on TMS just now. Sounds about right.

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01cnth3

    Well that's what you'd expect from Boycs.

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    The spirit of the game being arbitrary and useless is what Holding has been saying too, but now highlighted even more by the ICC taking action on claiming grassed catches and so on. That's the only argument I fully agree with. They're comfortable in determining doubt in one scenario but not another.

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    No such thing as the 'spirit of the rules'

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    What DID Dar think it hit?!!

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    RE.
    SPECT.
    WALK.


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