So what's your point?Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
People WUMming and point scoring about players by saying they're the bestest-westest player ever is almost as bad as other people WUMming and point scoring about players by saying they're useless/pointless.
It's worse IMO. The people calling Arteta pointless can back it up. People calling Arteta great cant.
How have you backed it up?
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
Well no, because the stats show him to have been a useful player. All the 'backing up' of him being pointless is subjective opinion which is being deliberately exaggerated to wind others up.
My point was merely that you choose to point out those that say he's rubbish but ignore those who say he's great as if that's OK.
Incidentally noone said he was rubbish did they, most said he's played out of position and is pretty average playing out of position understandably. He's not a stand out player where he's played, we could find better (which a player who talents suit that role) and then use him where his strengths lie and where he was very good for Everton, offensively.
I've just pointed out both.
Although as (supposed) Arsenal fans we're more likely to be wound up by overly negative opinions about our players than overly positive ones, so they're not quite the same.
And as others have pointed out, the positive opinions in this case are backed up with facts as well as popular opinion, the negative ones aren't which, along with the people posting them, make them seem more WUMmish.
Moving the goal posts
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
That's your opinion though, I think most Arsenal fans have woken up to the fact that we're not that great and that the players and manager are the reason and thus negative opinions of them are fine, so I disagree there. If anything positive opinions like some that we see are worse as they completely ignore what's happened in the last 8 years as if it's been a fairytale and support things that clearly shouldn't be.
The facts come from the season before last where we struggled again, noone stood out other than RVP who carried us. Last season his stats weren't as favourable however, again though we weren't very good and who really stood out.
If he's as good as the stats suggest why aren't people standing up and taking notice of his contribution (none Arsenal fans)?
How is people saying Ramsey, and to a lesser extent, Arteta are/were SUPERB not an absolute wind up?
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