Mikel Arteta Thread

[Ollie the Optimist]

Given tv5 is out for three months, and was dropped last season. I'd make arteta club captain. We've seen he is a leader past season

[Niall_Quinn]

I would make Bendtner club captain, may be the only way to get rid of him.

[dazthegooner]

I would make Bendtner club captain, may be the only way to get rid of him.

Lol

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Given tv5 is out for three months, and was dropped last season. I'd make arteta club captain. We've seen he is a leader past season

Knowing what happens to players made captain, I'm in full agreement with the emboldened.

[Niall_Quinn]

Spanish

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

oops there we go again, avoid avoid avoid

Fraud_n_Glory

[Power n Glory]

oops there we go again, avoid avoid avoid

Fraud_n_Glory

What the feck are you talking about, mate? Where are your comprehension skills? Can anyone else make sense of this?

This isn’t even a dispute about the type of player he is. We both pretty much agree on his type of role in the squad. You’ve pulled this ‘controller’ phrase out from your ass somewhere, nobody in football would describe a creative midfielder, deep laying playmaker, maestro…whatever as a ‘controller’ but I get what you’re saying and the role you’re trying to describe. In one word, you’d call him a ‘midfielder’ in footballing terms but as the game has become more sophisticated and complex, we need more words to fully describe a players role and attributes.. That’s not even an issue, so answering that one question you keep harping on about is bloody irrelevant in this ‘debate’. You can describe him as a controller if you want but my main point is he doesn’t make a very good one.

thrown in with a few examples of elite footballers who are quite clearly miles better than arteta so is a ridiculous comparison to begin with.

Of course it’s not when we’re talking about what we require to get better as a team. Heck, we had Cesc and I mention Rosicky. These are his peers and it’s far from ridiculous, especially when people on here are saying he had better stats than Xavi and Pirlo the season before. Should I compare him to Denilson? Would that help?

Next to a DM/destroyer, I doubt Arteta would flourish because we saw him play alongside Song and instead of hunting for the ball and conducting play, trying to make things happen in the same way a player like Cesc, Rosicky do, he took a backseat and opted for the more defensive role. If we bought a DM, played Arteta as a CM with Cazorla or JW at the top of that trio, I think we’d still struggle because we’d need someone that has better awareness, able to cope under pressure and see the pass before he’s received the ball. Arteta just doesn’t have that sort of awareness in his locker. That’s the main point you should be looking at.

he's a controller, not a tackler. which is why when he's played in the DM role he's average. when he's playing next to a DM he's excellent

i never said he was excellent next to a DM either, i said he's better there. i still think he's pretty average as everyone knows.

This is a contradiction my friend. Yes, you said he was excellent next to a DM, then denied you said it. But forget that, I disagree with him being excellent next to a DM. See point above.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

What the feck are you talking about, mate? Where are your comprehension skills? Can anyone else make sense of this?

This isn’t even a dispute about the type of player he is. We both pretty much agree on his type of role in the squad. You’ve pulled this ‘controller’ phrase out from your ass somewhere, nobody in football would describe a creative midfielder, deep laying playmaker, maestro…whatever as a ‘controller’ but I get what you’re saying and the role you’re trying to describe. In one word, you’d call him a ‘midfielder’ in footballing terms but as the game has become more sophisticated and complex, we need more words to fully describe a players role and attributes.. That’s not even an issue, so answering that one question you keep harping on about is bloody irrelevant in this ‘debate’. You can describe him as a controller if you want but my main point is he doesn’t make a very good one.


Of course it’s not when we’re talking about what we require to get better as a team. Heck, we had Cesc and I mention Rosicky. These are his peers and it’s far from ridiculous, especially when people on here are saying he had better stats than Xavi and Pirlo the season before. Should I compare him to Denilson? Would that help?

Next to a DM/destroyer, I doubt Arteta would flourish because we saw him play alongside Song and instead of hunting for the ball and conducting play, trying to make things happen in the same way a player like Cesc, Rosicky do, he took a backseat and opted for the more defensive role. If we bought a DM, played Arteta as a CM with Cazorla or JW at the top of that trio, I think we’d still struggle because we’d need someone that has better awareness, able to cope under pressure and see the pass before he’s received the ball. Arteta just doesn’t have that sort of awareness in his locker. That’s the main point you should be looking at.




This is a contradiction my friend. Yes, you said he was excellent next to a DM, then denied you said it. But forget that, I disagree with him being excellent next to a DM. See point above.

it took you 1059 posts with me to be able to make a structured argument. well done. i finally understand your waffle. hoorah!

now you've been able to speak proper english i can see what your saying and agree with most of it. i do think you're being harsh on him when he played with song though. if arteta pushed forward more often we would have seen fewer assists from song that year and in the end it proved crucial. he was a good cover for song in that sense, picking up the pieces when that idiot raced forward.

song was a weird one, he was the DM and the closest thing we had to a 'destroyer' but he also deserted his duties leaving arteta at the back. in the end they switched; when one went up, the other stayed back. i liked the balance arteta gave us that year but according to you he's been crap all his arsenal career so each to their own.

[Power n Glory]

Why so aggressive in the first place? Why the insults? From my opening posts I made my position clear but it's like you saw red, consumed by rage and decided to just start throwing insults and take offence. Maybe it was the heatwave.