Luis Suarez thread

[Grebbo]

Don't belittle the incident? No, blow it out of all conceivable proportion and then belittle everything else. This stupid country full of ignorant peasants just grovelled to the gates of the ultimate in discriminatory social bigots so they could coo over the pre-ordained right (by plucking legitimacy from thin air I suppose) of this small klan to elevate themselves above all others. They are superior, not by skin colour but by blood. God says so apparently. We will bow at the sight of them. And all of this is normal, devote the news and newspapers in worship and hang out the flags. But any attempt to place Suarez's transgression into a rational context has knees jumping and mouths frothing. Nobody condones what Suarez said but it seems mostly everyone is prepared to pursue this flea to the ends of the elephant.

Do you write for a living? If not then you should.

[Özim]

From what we've seen on the pitch Suarez have been involved in cheating (handball in the world cup, does he dive as well?), a racism storm (which he refused to put behind him) and in violence (by biting someone, 2nd time he's done this).

Hardly a model pro is he, from a purely football perspective does any club really need a guy who is likely to get himself banned for a significant amount of time at any given stage in the season, especially when you have to pay big money for him?

I personally don't think he's a special enough talent to warrant putting up with this.

[Niall_Quinn]

Do you write for a living? If not then you should.

I just post what Cripps sends me.

[Power n Glory]

I said I couldn't give a shit about it at the time, I said it was horribly blown out of proportion at the time. Look it up. Evra appeared a while later liberally using the word nigger, but that was just a bit of fun. Wasn't it? And I don't want Suarez to come to the club.

What else do you have?

How stupid are you? That's what you're going to use to justify this nonsense? Another black man using the word like how it's done in Hip Hop or street culture?
Was he trying to wind anyone up and using it to cause a offence? I don't think so. Did you find it offensive?

[Niall_Quinn]

How stupid are you? That's what you're going to use to justify this nonsense? Another black man using the word like how it's done in Hip Hop or street culture?
Was he trying to wind anyone up and using it to cause a offence? I don't think so. Did you find it offensive?

Yeah, I'm not trying to justify anything. I don't care what any of them said, I'm just pointing out to those who seem to be on some sort of selective moral crusade that there are far, far (far) worse things in the world but nobody bothers mentioning them. If this horrible crime committed by Suarez gets the crusaders fired up I can't wait to see them in action confronting the mega racist shit exploding all around their ear holes. In between cheering in favour of it at parades of course, because everyone needs some down time.

[Power n Glory]

Yeah, I'm not trying to justify anything. I don't care what any of them said, I'm just pointing out to those who seem to be on some sort of selective moral crusade that there are far, far (far) worse things in the world but nobody bothers mentioning them. If this horrible crime committed by Suarez gets the crusaders fired up I can't wait to see them in action confronting the mega racist shit exploding all around their ear holes. In between cheering in favour of it at parades of course, because everyone needs some down time.

You yourself are on a selective moral crusade. Stop pointing the finger in the other direction all the time and at bigger organisations. They're all built on individuals. And if you don't care what either of them said then you have no business talking about bigger issues because you can't see the wood for the trees.

[Özim]

Yeah, I'm not trying to justify anything. I don't care what any of them said, I'm just pointing out to those who seem to be on some sort of selective moral crusade that there are far, far (far) worse things in the world but nobody bothers mentioning them. If this horrible crime committed by Suarez gets the crusaders fired up I can't wait to see them in action confronting the mega racist shit exploding all around their ear holes. In between cheering in favour of it at parades of course, because everyone needs some down time.

Let's be fair, Suarez is a high profile sportsman earning millions who is idolised by many people, including kids.

His actions on the pitch are probably mimicked in kids matches all over the country and so are his actions (kids are impressionable). As a high profile sportsman he has a duty to at least try to set a good example and not make certain unsavoury aspects of society acceptable.

The things he does has a big impact due to his profile. Obviously there are much worse things all around, perhaps not so much in the public eye however and thus not able to influence the masses in the same way.

[Cripps_orig]

Do people seriously think he's racist?

If he was, I'm sure the black Liverpool players wouldn't stand for it yet I'm sure some were wearing the infamous t shirts.

And in no way is what Suarez said worse than what Adams and Merson did.

Got nothing to do with who plays for who etc. it's just common sense

[Niall_Quinn]

You yourself are on a selective moral crusade. Stop pointing the finger in the other direction all the time and at bigger organisations. They're all built on individuals. And if you don't care what either of them said then you have no business talking about bigger issues because you can't see the wood for the trees.

Bloody hell, you have several selective crusades going on but I'm not allowed even one? You get to preach to the fans who have the nerve to have an opinion on transfers, you get to be the PR agent for keeping Suarezgate in the spotlight. What do I get? All I wanted was a small, unnoticed corner full of brutal war criminals, slave owners and global fraudsters whose very stock in trade is extreme racism. Okay, I'll wear the clown suit and stomp around slagging Suarez if I really have to, but after that I'm having my own fucking crusade and that's the end of it.

[Özim]

Do people seriously think he's racist?

If he was, I'm sure the black Liverpool players wouldn't stand for it yet I'm sure some were wearing the infamous t shirts.

And in no way is what Suarez said worse than what Adams and Merson did.

Got nothing to do with who plays for who etc. it's just common sense

To be honest people could say the same about Terry, he has black teammates and yet he's labelled a racist.

Adams and Merson didn't bite players on the pitch to be fair, he made his actions worse by refusing to let bygones be bygones when he was to blame for the incident.