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Thread: Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    You're boycotting the game because it has sold out but it's illogical for me to suppose some of the principal figures involved in that sell out don't give a shit what the fans think or want?
    It’s illogical to make out that Wenger is a fall guy and Ivan is dropping him into expecting him just to take it. This is Wenger’s final year of his contact and they should be keeping him sweet. Also, I doubt Ivan would have taken his time to address the bloggers and fans if he didn’t give a shit. Even the slickest politician and business knows how to play it smart and keep people on side.

    Plus, I can't understand why you of all people would be against boycotting games or belittling people that choose to spend their cash elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    It’s illogical to make out that Wenger is a fall guy and Ivan is dropping him into expecting him just to take it. This is Wenger’s final year of his contact and they should be keeping him sweet. Also, I doubt Ivan would have taken his time to address the bloggers and fans if he didn’t give a shit. Even the slickest politician and business knows how to play it smart and keep people on side.

    Plus, I can't understand why you of all people would be against boycotting games or belittling people that choose to spend their cash elsewhere.
    it isnt and hes done it before

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    it isnt and hes done it before
    when?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh_Gooner View Post
    when?
    by finally admitting this summer that wenger had a limited budget. before that, he said we had this 70 million warchest and could spend, therefore it puts the blame on wengers door and off him

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    So Ivan is going to piss off and risk losing his number 1 asset? But he doesn't give a shit about what the fans think or do so why do use Wenger as the fall guy? A PHW response would be more than efficient! It's illogical even from a business perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    by finally admitting this summer that wenger had a limited budget. before that, he said we had this 70 million warchest and could spend, therefore it puts the blame on wengers door and off him
    but Wenger himself did say he had money to spend, but would only spend big on top, top quality.

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    I do find the arguments about the board being satisfied with just 4th somewhat illogical, firstly if that was the case than they would have invested more in the squad simply to guarantee that fourth place finish and they certainly wouldn't be pleased with Wenger for cutting it so fine in the last two seasons

    Second of all when you are marketing something for making money you don't forget that your selling a product and the product in question is a football club, and with business as with everything else perception is key and sponsorship and business investment is more likely to be forthcoming for a club that has on the field success, and this is why there are clubs in Europe whose oversea marketing is far, far superior to ours and generally our record profits come from player sales.
    That is mainly because Ivan Gazidis is an incompitent cretin....not because we have won zero silverware under his tenure or he has not really overseen any marquee signings (which isn't anything to do with his role at the club anyway) but because the guy has been a big failure at marketing the club.

    If however this rumoured Puma deal comes to fruition alongside the re-negotiations with Emirates Airline for the stadium sponsorship he will have gone some way towards redeeming himself, although i don't believe the sheer level of muppetry that caused him to try and broker business negotiations with a Russian Telekoms company without bothering to do any research (which had he bothered to do so would have shown that this company was owned by personna non grata Alisher Usmanov) can be easily forgotten.

    Which leads me to my next point if they are so concerned with running the club at minimal cost to maximise profit only why would they not accept Alisher Usmanov's offered hand out especially if he claims that the offer comes without strings attached.
    The point has been made that even if a mass boycott ensued that the club would not care because of the amount of corporate investment it would garner through marketing the club to foreign fans (such as the far east), firstly i don't see how this would be tenable long-term unless the club was succesful in winning trophies because foreigners who have no geographic or emotional ties to the club will just jump ship and support a more succesful club at the first oportunity.
    Secondly the same point is made somewhat self-contradictory that the promises of marquee signings ensured that Season tickets were renewed and so fans would accept the high ticket prices levied on them, so really if 4th was all it was about and the fans were unimportant why bother promising them anything in the first place.

    I think it is down to Wenger on this occasion and i am not even entirely convinced by the argument that he is only afraid to make big signings because he is afraid that even with large investment he doesn't have the ability to win silverware. I don't think confidence has ever been Wenger's problem i think his problem is stubborn failure to adapt and to an extent a failure to take on board the counsel of others, Wenger is essentially i believe buying into his own bullshit that would make spending on a large scale a form of cheating in his eyes....i think he is actually entrenched in his own puritanical philosophy. And the board naturally cautious are unwilling to push him too much towards the big money signings they think the team needs, and they would like the club to have in order to market the club abroad that much more successfully. Simply because they are afraid that he won't sign a new contract and they don't see anyone around that can take on the responsibility that Wenger has.

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    any heard the rumour that Valencia are interested in Giroud now that Soldado is en route to the shower from down the road?

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    Confirmation that we're signing Suarez tbh.

    Or just more nonsense.

    I'm going with c).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Splinter View Post
    Confirmation that we're signing Suarez tbh.

    Or just more nonsense.

    I'm going with c).
    remember we already have the crippled postman who can play there.

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