Luis Suarez thread

[Özim]

It'd be a bit of a cop-out to say, 'ah because he is the focal point', when he often pulls out wide and anyway, you could just as easily say the same thing for the others players mentioned, only with better players surrounding them!

Suarez has only had two full seasons in the league (he was brilliant for Liverpool the few games he played in the other season). Bit harsh to say he has only had one good one, 50% success rate. Just like, your favourite, Aguero.

Come on Zim, you've mentioned what it was like when we got Bergkamp in 1995, it wasn't like we were riding high with talent then, nor with who else came in alongside Bergkamp. We're a far better side now than we were then, we're in a far better financial shape now compared to then and look what followed. When it all started for Citeh with Mansour, they only made one signficant purchase, as they didn't have time to do anything more than that - Robinho! Look what followed there.

If we assume that we will settle with Liverpool for the £47 million Caught Offside say (and that of course is a huge leap of faith given they're a pub team website) then I would suggest we still have a more than decent amount left, especially with all the squad departures we have had this sumemer. That's kinda why I want us to hurry this along but I don't want us to miss this opportunity, even if we're buying a complete nutter.

Just countering your point about the other two really who have more goals.

Yes but the price is disproportional considering how long he's been here, it's up to Liverpool in the end as he's under contract and they don't want to sell so they can name their price, but he's not really worth that kind of money based on 1 1/2 seasons.

Platt was signed as well as Bergkamp (another big signing at the time), we also came very close to getting Juninho so Bergkamp wasn't a lone signing.


I'd like to think so, but I what I think we'll find is that this will be it...if it's not then I'd be a lot happier, I wouldn't want to pin our whole season on Suarez.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Just countering your point about the other two really who have more goals.

Yes but the price is disproportional considering how long he's been here, it's up to Liverpool in the end as he's under contract and they don't want to sell so they can name their price, but he's not really worth that kind of money based on 1 1/2 seasons.

Platt was signed as well as Bergkamp (another big signing at the time), we also came very close to getting Juninho so Bergkamp wasn't a lone signing.


I'd like to think so, but I what I think we'll find is that this will be it...if it's not then I'd be a lot happier, I wouldn't want to pin our whole season on Suarez.

It's not countering it though, all sides have their best attackers as their go-to players, regardless of what level they're playing at.

It isn't disproportional to his talent and his value to Liverpool, only they can set the price of what they think it is. I can think of worse purchases for somewhere in that ballpark put it that way. I know Platt was signed then, had both stickers of those two players on my bedroom door. However I don't think people look back at that time and think 'yes, that's when it started' because Platt signed. It's Bergkamp where that is thought of.

[Özim]

It's not countering it though, all sides have their best attackers as their go-to players, regardless of what level they're playing at.

It isn't disproportional to his talent and his value to Liverpool, only they can set the price of what they think it is. I can think of worse purchases for somewhere in that ballpark put it that way. I know Platt was signed then, had both stickers of those two players on my bedroom door. However I don't think people look back at that time and think 'yes, that's when it started' because Platt signed. It's Bergkamp where that is thought of.

Well the point was Cavani and Falcoa scored more goals and thus are worth more than Suarez.

Yes that's true, I personally think it's too much for a player of his ability when looking at what else you can get for that.

Platt wasn't a massive success though I remember his goal in that classic 3-2 win against Man U, however he was a big player and big signing at the time, he'd been a great goalscorer for all his clubs and for England....just wish we'd got Juninho, what a player he was for Boro!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Therefore us paying less for Suarez than what was payed for Falcao and Cavani shouldn't be so much of a problem! It's a crude way of looking at it but Suarez score less than them but is also more creative.

Juninho was great, in two of the three stints at Boro anyway.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Apparently there's to be an embargoed story released at 10pm by the Telegraph, on BT Sports I think.

This is getting silly.

[JonasTC]

Just look towards the uruguay national team and you can see that suarez is better than cavani, scoring more goals and getting a more central role, than cavani (Even leading the team as a captain, when the normals captains werent around). I would much rather take my chances on suarez than cavani who isnt PL proven.

[Grebbo]

Apparently there's to be an embargoed story released at 10pm by the Telegraph, on BT Sports I think.

This is getting silly.

Maybe it's this?

@TonyBarretTimes: Looks like the PFA believe Liverpool's interpretation of Suarez's clause is correct. Interesting

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Maybe it's this?

Nah, I posted those quotes further up from a Mirror article.

It'll be something completely pointless, but it all adds to the drama.

[Özim]

Just look towards the uruguay national team and you can see that suarez is better than cavani, scoring more goals and getting a more central role, than cavani (Even leading the team as a captain, when the normals captains werent around). I would much rather take my chances on suarez than cavani who isnt PL proven.

Disagree, I think Cavani is better, much more lethal in front of goal and he's not a troublemaker.

Cavani looks like a prolific striker from the goals he scores.

[Grebbo]

From the Mirror:

Taylor later told the Press Association the contract does not oblige Liverpool to sell Suarez:

"If you are going to have a supposed buy-out clause it should be that, but it is different as it says if there is no qualification for the Champions League and if there is a minimum offer of £40million then the parties will get around the table to discuss things but it does not say the club has to sell.

"It quite clearly states £40million is a minimum offer for discussions, but it becomes really difficult with such clauses.

"There is a 'good faith' clause in relation to serious discussions but I can't say it is cast-iron buy-out clause.

"Luis is one of our members and we want to be supportive, however, he may well have thought such an offer would trigger a move.

"The interpretation is not that simple by any means and there is no guarantee of getting a (successful) result if it is referred to the Premier League.

So we didn't need to bid the extra pound? We can take that off the bid now



Tbh that's more encouraging than I thought it would be.