Man City v Arsenal Saturday 10th August 15:00

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Ahh, I see you didn't watch the game.

H_C_Z

yes and your telling me he didn't do any of the things i mentioned on a constant basis, his pass into Walcott was a decent one no i'll be fair it was a good one and every once in a while he is able to make decent passes. But that's usually after being given time to compose himself to get the ball under control due to his terrible first touch (time he won't have in a real competitive encounter), and as for tracking back.....i know he was injured but he's a young man in good physique so why on earth can he not run.....when we sit deep and play on the counter attack his clear failings as a player are clearly not as exposed....but during the Emirates cup when we push up and try and play expansively he will constantly put our defence under pressure due to not being able to run, tackle or keep possession....
If we persist with him and Arteta in midfield....the spankings at home to the big teams domestically and in europe are set to continue.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

And yes his goal was well taken too

[GP]

yes and your telling me he didn't do any of the things i mentioned on a constant basis, his pass into Walcott was a decent one no i'll be fair it was a good one and every once in a while he is able to make decent passes. But that's usually after being given time to compose himself to get the ball under control due to his terrible first touch (time he won't have in a real competitive encounter), and as for tracking back.....i know he was injured but he's a young man in good physique so why on earth can he not run.....when we sit deep and play on the counter attack his clear failings as a player are clearly not as exposed....but during the Emirates cup when we push up and try and play expansively he will constantly put our defence under pressure due to not being able to run, tackle or keep possession....
If we persist with him and Arteta in midfield....the spankings at home to the big teams domestically and in europe are set to continue.

Making things up won't help your position.

[Niall_Quinn]

When a player is putting 100% effort into his game and improving then surely the fans need to support the player. They may not want him here at all but that's more down to Wenger than the player. Ramsey is putting a shift in and earning his money. You don't see him fucking around off the pitch raping women or biting people during matches. He's loyal, hasn't be talking about moving anywhere, doesn't complain when he's on the bench. You surely have to give the guy some credit and if you really think he's as poor as you say then take that up with Wenger who hired him and continues to pick him. I'm starting to respect Ramsey, he gets a lot of shit but he just keeps battling on. And that's after an injury that could have ended his career.

[LDG]

When a player is putting 100% effort into his game and improving then surely the fans need to support the player. They may not want him here at all but that's more down to Wenger than the player. Ramsey is putting a shift in and earning his money. You don't see him fucking around off the pitch raping women or biting people during matches. He's loyal, hasn't be talking about moving anywhere, doesn't complain when he's on the bench. You surely have to give the guy some credit and if you really think he's as poor as you say then take that up with Wenger who hired him and continues to pick him. I'm starting to respect Ramsey, he gets a lot of shit but he just keeps battling on. And that's after an injury that could have ended his career.

Was pretty good at the end of last term.

Hope it continues.

Before his injury there was the makings of a very good player.

If he keeps his game simple, he'll get the rewards.

His worst moments come when he tries to be too clever, flicks n tricks etc. They don't work in top flight football unless you're the very very best.

Good lad is Ramsby.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

When a player is putting 100% effort into his game and improving then surely the fans need to support the player. They may not want him here at all but that's more down to Wenger than the player. Ramsey is putting a shift in and earning his money. You don't see him fucking around off the pitch raping women or biting people during matches. He's loyal, hasn't be talking about moving anywhere, doesn't complain when he's on the bench. You surely have to give the guy some credit and if you really think he's as poor as you say then take that up with Wenger who hired him and continues to pick him. I'm starting to respect Ramsey, he gets a lot of shit but he just keeps battling on. And that's after an injury that could have ended his career.

Like I said to the guy in a London Nightclub who tried to sell me one E for a tenner "i'm not buying it"

I couldn't give a small puddle of monkey ejaculate what he does in his spare time, it's what he does on the pitch that bothers me and that's just it....it does BOTHER me tremendously. I don't see how a player of his age and his physical condition cannot run i can't....either his legs are completley gone in which case he should be getting injured all the time (i don't remember him being injured at all since he came back in 2011) or he clearly isn't busting a gut for us at all. I'm sick of seeing oposistion players rampaging towards our defence and that taffy halfwit lumbering back in slow motion with neither the speed or the ability to tackle to do anything about it....i'm sick of seeing excellent attacking moves broken down by the guy's inability to control a simple pass into feet....i'm sick of seeing him give away possession under no pressure, over cooking passes under no pressure...i'm not going to give the guy a break he makes me hate watching my team play.
At least with Arteta he has the excuse that he's being played out of position, what position is it that Ramsey can actually play in?.
At best he is a luxury player who we might be able to countenance having at the club if we had a lot of better players playing ahead of him, at worst he is a swollen puss filled growth that needs to be drained.

[LDG]

Like I said to the guy in a London Nightclub who tried to sell me one E for a tenner "i'm not buying it"

I couldn't give a small puddle of monkey ejaculate what he does in his spare time, it's what he does on the pitch that bothers me and that's just it....it does BOTHER me tremendously. I don't see how a player of his age and his physical condition cannot run i can't....either his legs are completley gone in which case he should be getting injured all the time (i don't remember him being injured at all since he came back in 2011) or he clearly isn't busting a gut for us at all. I'm sick of seeing oposistion players rampaging towards our defence and that taffy halfwit lumbering back in slow motion with neither the speed or the ability to tackle to do anything about it....i'm sick of seeing excellent attacking moves broken down by the guy's inability to control a simple pass into feet....i'm sick of seeing him give away possession under no pressure, over cooking passes under no pressure...i'm not going to give the guy a break he makes me hate watching my team play.
At least with Arteta he has the excuse that he's being played out of position, what position is it that Ramsey can actually play in?.
At best he is a luxury player who we might be able to countenance having at the club if we had a lot of better players playing ahead of him, at worst he is a swollen puss filled growth that needs to be drained.

Quoted.

[Globalgunner]

Like I said to the guy in a London Nightclub who tried to sell me one E for a tenner "i'm not buying it"

I couldn't give a small puddle of monkey ejaculate what he does in his spare time, it's what he does on the pitch that bothers me and that's just it....it does BOTHER me tremendously. I don't see how a player of his age and his physical condition cannot run i can't....either his legs are completley gone in which case he should be getting injured all the time (i don't remember him being injured at all since he came back in 2011) or he clearly isn't busting a gut for us at all. I'm sick of seeing oposistion players rampaging towards our defence and that taffy halfwit lumbering back in slow motion with neither the speed or the ability to tackle to do anything about it....i'm sick of seeing excellent attacking moves broken down by the guy's inability to control a simple pass into feet....i'm sick of seeing him give away possession under no pressure, over cooking passes under no pressure...i'm not going to give the guy a break he makes me hate watching my team play.
At least with Arteta he has the excuse that he's being played out of position, what position is it that Ramsey can actually play in?.
At best he is a luxury player who we might be able to countenance having at the club if we had a lot of better players playing ahead of him, at worst he is a swollen puss filled growth that needs to be drained.

Ramsy is such a divisive player. In the real world we should be giving him props for rallying back from imjury and battling his hardest in each game. However he simply isnt good enough for the here and now. If we wish to be sentimental we can stick with him and hope a great player comescthrough but how long do we wait for the stars to align for him?. Maybe when our round decade of trophyless seasons has passed. In years back we had hardworking players in the squad eg Ray Parlour but they were complemented by real talent in midfield and were never the mainstay of the team. If we are to make up a 20 point gap on the title winners then Ramsey needs to take a gallon of Red Bull before each matchbecause for the life of me i cannot believe how a proffessional athlete can run at full pelt and still be slower than a typical 12 year old.

[Cripps_orig]

What?

[Cripps_orig]

Just seen Theo scored again