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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL) View Post
    But I don't believe that the mess in the transfer market this summer is ALL his doing.
    So who is to blame for the transfer shambles last summer and the summer before and the summer before...?

    Who is to blame for our defence being a joke?

    Who is responsible for us playing tippy tappy bollocks?

    Why arent our strikers never attacking the box?

    Why do we have players that are the most injury prone?

    Why was Rosicky given a new contract after he was injured for 4 years?

    Why is Squillaci here?

    Why does he play Bendtner on the wings? Why was Eduardo played on the wings?

    All these questions have very little to do with money being spent but as to how crap of a football manager he is or has become. Just for these reasons, he needs to be fired and if you add to it his reluctance to spend and strenghten, he needs to be fired, rehired and fired again- just to bang in the point that he is FIRED!

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    I'm not going to go through that list but we've finished top 4 FY. Every year. That isn't a crap manager at work.
    If you think that's easy then how come pretty much no other manager has done that. Fergie has but that's it. Plenty of managers have spent a LOT of money trying to displace us and failed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL) View Post
    I'm not going to go through that list but we've finished top 4 FY. Every year. That isn't a crap manager at work.
    If you think that's easy then how come pretty much no other manager has done that. Fergie has but that's it. Plenty of managers have spent a LOT of money trying to displace us and failed.
    It's not as if we're keeping elite managers at bay here. Our opponents have managers that have never won a league and don't know what it takes. Wenger is a double winner, he should be able to keep these guys at bay because these guys aren't on his level. But head to head against guys that have experienced the same sort of success, it doesn't look so good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    It's not as if we're keeping elite managers at bay here. Our opponents have managers that have never won a league and don't know what it takes. Wenger is a double winner, he should be able to keep these guys at bay because these guys aren't on his level. But head to head against guys that have experienced the same sort of success, it doesn't look so good.
    I'd say that's fairly reasonable, but the point is Wenger is at that level. Not many managers are.
    People act on here as if he's this bumbling idiot. If we replace him then unless we get another manager at that level, and there aren't that many around, then it's not going to fix all our problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL) View Post
    I'd say that's fairly reasonable, but the point is Wenger is at that level. Not many managers are.
    People act on here as if he's this bumbling idiot. If we replace him then unless we get another manager at that level, and there aren't that many around, then it's not going to fix all our problems.
    You've got to admit, he makes some real odd statements that makes him look bad. At the moment, we look stale and a new manager could fix our problems, on the field at least. I don't watch enough of the other leagues to name another top manager that can take over from Wenger and I suspect that's the same for most fans. But that doesn't mean they don't exist and wouldn't want a chance to coach one of the best clubs in the world.

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    Can't argue with any of that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL) View Post
    I'm not going to go through that list but we've finished top 4 FY. Every year. That isn't a crap manager at work.
    If you think that's easy then how come pretty much no other manager has done that. Fergie has but that's it. Plenty of managers have spent a LOT of money trying to displace us and failed.
    Jose did it the years he was here and yes, the time is coming. I was hearing on Fox Soccer Channel that up until 2005, we had never come below 2nd under AW but since then we have slowly slid down the table with 3rd and 4th positions. In 2009, we were lucky Villa screwed up and in Lasagne gate year, we were thankful to the chefs at Tottenham's hotel. Do you see the steady decline? Dont get me wrong, AW was very good... he came in with fresh ideas n philosophy and it took a while for the other managers to catch up but guess what? The other managers have caught up and evolved.. Arsene hasnt done that yet.

    The whole dimension of football has changed with sugar daddies.. Arsene still thinks he can win trophies with this bunch of toddlers but is it really going to happen? You know the answer and so do I. So if he cant win us trophies, its time we looked for someone else..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FakeYank View Post
    Jose did it the years he was here and yes, the time is coming. I was hearing on Fox Soccer Channel that up until 2005, we had never come below 2nd under AW but since then we have slowly slid down the table with 3rd and 4th positions. In 2009, we were lucky Villa screwed up and in Lasagne gate year, we were thankful to the chefs at Tottenham's hotel. Do you see the steady decline? Dont get me wrong, AW was very good... he came in with fresh ideas n philosophy and it took a while for the other managers to catch up but guess what? The other managers have caught up and evolved.. Arsene hasnt done that yet.

    The whole dimension of football has changed with sugar daddies.. Arsene still thinks he can win trophies with this bunch of toddlers but is it really going to happen? You know the answer and so do I. So if he cant win us trophies, its time we looked for someone else..
    The spud problem was not the chefs, it was a bug going round members of the team who caught it from each other in training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FakeYank View Post
    Jose did it the years he was here
    Jose and his half a billion pounds. But yes, he is a top manager and capable of similar success. Not many are.

    and yes, the time is coming. I was hearing on Fox Soccer Channel that up until 2005, we had never come below 2nd under AW but since then we have slowly slid down the table with 3rd and 4th positions
    2005 was before Chelsea's money started to seriously have an effect, and now City are getting in on the act.

    Do you see the steady decline?
    No, because there isn't one. Or hasn't been one so far. We were lucky to finish 4th in the lasagna year, I'll give you that. But after that we got steadily better for a couple of years. Since then there has been decline again and last season we were about where we were in 2006. So it's not been a steady decline, it's been stagnation. If you drew a graph from 2006 to 2001 it would be flatline (with a slight improvement in the middle). There has NOT been a steady decline.

    That said we are very weak this season and I do think this could be the year when we finish outside the top 4. Which brings us back to the transfer dealings this summer and whether that is entirely Wenger's fault or whether the board have a hand in it too. I suspect they do, and I seriously doubt Wenger can't see the obvious flaws in the squad that you and I can see.

    As for other managers evolving, to an extent other clubs have caught up with training methods, diet and worldwide scouting. But the sides who will finish in the top 3 this year have thrown silly money around. That isn't evolving or catching up, the fact that City are where they are shows you can do it with any team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL) View Post
    Jose and his half a billion pounds.
    Don't exaggerate. It was only a third of a billion pounds so clearly he had a real struggle to find players.

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