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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    New manager: Arsene I want to sign "Atopplayer"
    Arsene: How old is he
    New manager: 26
    Arsene: Do you not think he's a bit old, it doesn't make a lot of sense economically
    New manager: He's got quite a few years left Arsene and is already a top player who has delivered at the highest level
    Arsene: What about the future, we need to build for the future...do you think he will still be around
    New manager: I don't see why not Arsene he's got a fair few years and will most likely play on into his 30's
    Arsene: We don't like keeping players in their 30's, will he accept a pay cut and one year contract
    New manager: I'm not sure Arsene
    Arsene: Is he super quality?
    New manager: I'm not sure what you mean Arsene, but he's top class and has performed in the CL and was great at the World Cup and has also been consistently good in Spain
    Arsene: How much will he cost, we can't buy players for 50 million you know
    New manager: He's available for 16 million Arsene, I know it seems a lot but he's proven at the highest level
    Arsene: You can make them an offer of up to 8.2 million but start at 5 so you can bid up, we don't want to spend more than that as we have to live in the real world and we have many young players which we don't want to kill
    New manager: I'm not sure we'll get him for that Arsene
    Arsene: We've got all summer, just keep negotiating and we'll get him at the right price, the deal needs to be right for Arsenal
    New manager: If you say so Arsene

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    To be honest, I don't know why you keep blindly praising Wenger. The fact that you don't think Wenger should've been sacked for the end of last season sums it all up really.


    He has compromising photos of me tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL) View Post
    But I don't believe that the mess in the transfer market this summer is ALL his doing.
    So who is to blame for the transfer shambles last summer and the summer before and the summer before...?

    Who is to blame for our defence being a joke?

    Who is responsible for us playing tippy tappy bollocks?

    Why arent our strikers never attacking the box?

    Why do we have players that are the most injury prone?

    Why was Rosicky given a new contract after he was injured for 4 years?

    Why is Squillaci here?

    Why does he play Bendtner on the wings? Why was Eduardo played on the wings?

    All these questions have very little to do with money being spent but as to how crap of a football manager he is or has become. Just for these reasons, he needs to be fired and if you add to it his reluctance to spend and strenghten, he needs to be fired, rehired and fired again- just to bang in the point that he is FIRED!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Reasonably argued. You could be right, I could be right, more likely we're both partly right and partly way off the mark. That's the trouble with this club, they keep everything tight. But the question is, should Wenger keep his job? Which also implies another question, should he be sacked? The season has started, there's a few days left in the transfer window, the pressure is being piled on the club. Personally (I mean not that anybody of consequence is waiting to see how I jump, but I'm part of the mass called the fans and so my opinion is one of the drops that makes the ocean) I don't want to be part of that pressure for two reasons.

    First, hitting the self destruct button now makes no sense at all. If Wenger was going to leave it should have been at the end of last season when the team scandalously collapsed. That was completely unacceptable and grounds for and manager to be removed. But it didn't happen and now is certainly not the time to be talking about changing the manager. I hear people say, I hope we lose to Udinese, I hope we sign no players and Wenger is sacked, I hope we finish outside the top four. This is frustration I suppose but it would also be totally counter-productive. Why are we pissed off? Because we can't win, because there's no stability. So when some fans go to far and say let's lose and let's kick the manager out and get anyone in, this isn't good for the club, this doesn't give us stability and this doesn't help us to win. These are the things we claim we want but blowing up the club is not going to get them.

    Second, I don't like some of the bedfellows I'd have to lie with if I seriously joined the gathering witch hunt for Wenger's head. Poxy journalists, pathetic pundits, opposition fans looking for amusement, pretty much all the tossers in the world I wouldn't have a drink with. If Wenger has to go it should not be at the hands of pricks like this, run out in some media frenzy with the added indignity of some Arsenal fans running with the mob. If we join this we say Wenger is worthless and has done nothing for the club, we say he deserves to be humiliated, hounded, made fun of in the media, discussed like he's an idiot around breakfast tables staffed by slimy journalists who pretend to have an ounce as much dignity or integrity as Wenger. It's not just Wenger, I wouldn't see it happen to any good man because it's just wrong.

    And say we did this, ran Wenger out of the club and destroyed him in the process. What if we woke up in the morning and discovered it had been the board all along? That these are the bastards who have exploited the club and run it into the ground for their own gain. I don't know for sure but which seems more reasonable, that Wenger would run the club down through sheer arrogance and the board would sit there and let him do it, or the board itself has run the club down because along came Stan and they saw their chance to cash in big time? Remember, Stan has been taking over this club for a long time, it didn't all start happening last year.

    Like I said, I'm wrong, you're wrong, we're both partly right - time may tell. But I'm not jumping on any bandwagon in the meantime because I feel the club is in enough trouble already and could probably do better with my support right now rather than me sticking a boot in. Plus the guys genuinely seemed to try on Saturday and even though they fucked it up in the end I appreciated that effort. It's been a while coming but I'm not going to ignore it when it arrives.
    Yes, I agree with you on that one. I want Wenger to go, but now isn't the right time. We're at the start of the season and this all should have been sorted in the summer. But, I hope the board start looking for his replacement now so we know what needs to be done next summer or when his contract comes to an end.

    For his own sake, I hope he really goes for it this season. He's never won the Champions League, never won back to back titles and he needs to do that to be remembered as one of the true greats. Besides the stadium, the football and domestic titles, the invincible squad, I want him to be remembered for winning all honours and dominating the Prem. That looks unlikely to happen and going out like this would be a real bitter pill to swallow. It really shouldn't end like this and he does deserve a better exit but he has to pull himself together or it's another case of looking at the worst case scenario.

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    I'm not going to go through that list but we've finished top 4 FY. Every year. That isn't a crap manager at work.
    If you think that's easy then how come pretty much no other manager has done that. Fergie has but that's it. Plenty of managers have spent a LOT of money trying to displace us and failed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL) View Post


    He has compromising photos of me tbh.
    Everyone has those, you post them on the Internet FFS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FakeYank View Post
    he needs to be fired, rehired and fired again- just to bang in the point that he is FIRED!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL) View Post
    I'm not going to go through that list but we've finished top 4 FY. Every year. That isn't a crap manager at work.
    If you think that's easy then how come pretty much no other manager has done that. Fergie has but that's it. Plenty of managers have spent a LOT of money trying to displace us and failed.
    It's not as if we're keeping elite managers at bay here. Our opponents have managers that have never won a league and don't know what it takes. Wenger is a double winner, he should be able to keep these guys at bay because these guys aren't on his level. But head to head against guys that have experienced the same sort of success, it doesn't look so good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL) View Post
    I'm not going to go through that list but we've finished top 4 FY. Every year. That isn't a crap manager at work.
    If you think that's easy then how come pretty much no other manager has done that. Fergie has but that's it. Plenty of managers have spent a LOT of money trying to displace us and failed.
    Jose did it the years he was here and yes, the time is coming. I was hearing on Fox Soccer Channel that up until 2005, we had never come below 2nd under AW but since then we have slowly slid down the table with 3rd and 4th positions. In 2009, we were lucky Villa screwed up and in Lasagne gate year, we were thankful to the chefs at Tottenham's hotel. Do you see the steady decline? Dont get me wrong, AW was very good... he came in with fresh ideas n philosophy and it took a while for the other managers to catch up but guess what? The other managers have caught up and evolved.. Arsene hasnt done that yet.

    The whole dimension of football has changed with sugar daddies.. Arsene still thinks he can win trophies with this bunch of toddlers but is it really going to happen? You know the answer and so do I. So if he cant win us trophies, its time we looked for someone else..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FakeYank View Post
    Jose did it the years he was here and yes, the time is coming. I was hearing on Fox Soccer Channel that up until 2005, we had never come below 2nd under AW but since then we have slowly slid down the table with 3rd and 4th positions. In 2009, we were lucky Villa screwed up and in Lasagne gate year, we were thankful to the chefs at Tottenham's hotel. Do you see the steady decline? Dont get me wrong, AW was very good... he came in with fresh ideas n philosophy and it took a while for the other managers to catch up but guess what? The other managers have caught up and evolved.. Arsene hasnt done that yet.

    The whole dimension of football has changed with sugar daddies.. Arsene still thinks he can win trophies with this bunch of toddlers but is it really going to happen? You know the answer and so do I. So if he cant win us trophies, its time we looked for someone else..
    The spud problem was not the chefs, it was a bug going round members of the team who caught it from each other in training.

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