It is a gamble, I don't think anyone has said getting rid of him is a sure-fire route to success. At various points over the past few years it got to the point where not many of us could see much light at the end of the tunnel, patience wore thin and rolling the dice seemed like the only chance we might have of getting out of this rut. As fans regardless of what your expectations are, watching the same thing over and over again is not enjoyable.Originally Posted by The Ogg Monster
This has been done to death and plenty of posters have stated a number of valid reasons as to why wenger should go.
I think it's actually now time for us to hear valid reasons as to why he should stay.
I don't think there are many in the camp who think he should be given a new contract now.
Some people still think he's gone as far as he can and should go now, and I think the majority now feel that he should be given until the end of the season to see where we stand.
If he again looks to add quality in January, we challenge (realistically, not in the top four sense), and make positive steps forward, then maybe it warrants a new contract.
At this point, you can't say he SHOULD be given a new deal, because a collapse ™ could be just around the corner.
But it's clear that there is optimism around the club, and most fans seem to be content to see where this leads us this year. If, ultimately, it ends up as more of the same, then he shouldn't be given a new deal. Simple as.
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
They might put Di Canio in instead
I would be happy & it would be good for everyone if Wumger was allowed to install a proper "assistant" that was being taught the ropes. This could be good so Wumger could walk away on a agreed date with his head held high. I am no longer a fan of his & I think an awful lot of you have been hoodwinked with the Ozil signing, but at the end of the day he has done wonders for the club in the past & we should remember him for good reasons not bad. The issue is that the assistant cannot be a "yes" man, he needs a valid opinion of his own & I would like to see this person get involved with issues such as tactics & new players - areas where Wumger has lost it.
My choice would be to offer DB10 the role with a view to him taking over properly in 2015.
I don't understand why people think Bould is a yes man and think Bergkamp wouldn't be. Doesn't make any sense.
1)Arsene Wenger is the most successfull Arsenal F.C manager of all time
2)We are top of the league.
3) We have qualified for the champions league ahead of Spurs who have spent far more and achieved far less.
4) Who do we replace him with? (Ozil stated he joined mainly because of Arsene Wenger, who called him, spoke in GErman and persuaded him Arsenal was the best place for him.
5) Arsenal F.C have, whilst qualifying for Cl every since the Cl started, achieved a profit that equals/almost equals, i cant remember, the profit made by every other PL club put together! (I think this is true)
6)Who do replace him with please?
Ive yet to hear a convincing argument as to who would do a better job. I believe this is because all that call for Wengers head are reactionist fools who have no sight of the long term. AW is a genius manager who brought us into a new staium and has found a way to keep us in the top four despite Man City and Chelsea having unlimited cash, or financial doping as the great man once put it.
Just look at Spurs (lol) who have changed manager time and time again, spent FAR more than us, and achieved FAR less.
Arsene Wenger is a one in a million manager who we need to keep as long as the human boday can keep a man managing a football club for.
Was Bould not part of the team that stood by in the whole of the transfer window & did nothing about getting a quality striker. This failure after the promise of "Summer spending" from the board & in view of our lack of quality forwards is gross negligence at the very least.
Which world-class players are going to sign for a team run by Steve Bould. His only interest is defensively, you can ask people down at Colney & they'll all tell you, he's just a newer Pat Rice.
This is the first time Wenger has had a massive budget to play with. All talk of his future should be assessed in January. If it's a sense of deja vu by then and we're struggling with the same problems, then we've run out of options for him. Where else is there to go?
I think that's all largely irrelevant. It's not Bould's responsibility to make sure players are signed; I don't think any player is signed based on the strength of who might be the assistant.
Do you think Bergkamp's vision of how football is and should be played will be vastly different to Wenger's and in lieu of that where is the disagreement between the two going to come from? Like you say, Bould's ethos is mainly about defending which would surely make him likely to be less of a yes man than someone who shares Wenger's sentiments of attacking.
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