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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost... View Post
    Indeed, judging a player after 2 and a bit months is far more sensible than looking at his career so far.
    I know hes a good player, the only question is how good. For a start I dont see him being that matchwinning superstar player, the player that Bergkamp was for 2 years, Pires was in 01-02 and Henry was for 5+ years, and for £40m thats a shame.

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    Well we're top of the league with him here and we weren't when he wasn't. I don't really know why it should bother you how much we spent on him, we spent more overall last season for not much achievement within one season and clearly with the signing of him a lot has changed for the mentality of a lot of players. That's well worth the £42 million.

    Pires in 01/02 was brilliant but that was his second season, I remember he was fairly written off for most of that season (00/01), it's what always happens - sign talented player, results falter slightly, all target them first in the search for answers to what happens in football, teams occasionally lose games.

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    Ozil + Suarez = Murder on the dance floor.

    There was that one teo he played with Giroud that the Frenchman didnt quite get. Suarez would have burried it and that what you need in the big games, a match winner

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    Well we're top of the league with him here and we weren't when he wasn't. I don't really know why it should bother you how much we spent on him, we spent more overall last season for not much achievement within one season and clearly with the signing of him a lot has changed for the mentality of a lot of players. That's well worth the £42 million.

    Pires in 01/02 was brilliant but that was his second season, I remember he was fairly written off for most of that season (00/01), it's what always happens - sign talented player, results falter slightly, all target them first in the search for answers to what happens in football, teams occasionally lose games.
    I know Ozil will be a good player for us, but yeah this is entirely about the money.

    We still need that game-changing player and im not sure how motivated the club will be to do that after already given us a blockbuster signing. If he'd cost say £25m theyd be less likely to rest on their laurels thinking theyd ticked that box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOBN View Post
    I know Ozil will be a good player for us, but yeah this is entirely about the money.

    We still need that game-changing player and im not sure how motivated the club will be to do that after already given us a blockbuster signing. If he'd cost say £25m theyd be less likely to rest on their laurels thinking theyd ticked that box.
    The club knows we're desperately short up front, Gazidis said that Giroud can't go the season alone.

    We have alot of money left spare from over the summer, spent around £32m net from a supposed £70m 'warchest'.

    Now will the club spend it on a genuine world class striker in the mould of Suarez/Lewandowski ? Now thats what we don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFC Leveller View Post
    has looked tired over the last couple of games. Not helped by being played wide right/left with noone to pass to.

    he often produced the goods against barcelona and in the CL not to mention for germany so this big games talk has no substance.

    I do wish he drove with the bal a bit more though because he has that in his locker.
    Wenger doesn’t start him on the flanks. He drifts into those positions to make space for himself. Ramsey played on the right, Cazorla on the left, Arteta, Flamini and Ozil in the middle. We missed Rosicky because even if starting on the right, he’ll find his way into the middle to cover the space Ozil drifts away from. I really have no idea how it’s going to work with Ozil. Wenger may need to shift Cazorla in the middle when Rosicky can’t play just so we get that balance. Or just play Ramsey there for crying out loud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOBN View Post
    I know Ozil will be a good player for us, but yeah this is entirely about the money.

    We still need that game-changing player and im not sure how motivated the club will be to do that after already given us a blockbuster signing. If he'd cost say £25m theyd be less likely to rest on their laurels thinking theyd ticked that box.
    I doubt that. Gazidis has already publically said that Giroud cannot hold the load throughout the season (even though somebody like Suarez would have played at the same time as him I reckon). It's not really in Wenger's make-up to neglect signing attacking players.

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    Firstly Ozil has only been here for a couple of months. The price tag is irrelevant, he still needs time to adjust to the league just like anyone else. Almost every player starts off slowly in this league so why is it different for Ozil?

    Secondly we're misusing him. Ozil's best ability is his vision. When we have a team with five CMs and a slow striker you're obviously not going to get the best out of him. It's like buying Sebastien Vettel and telling him to win a race with a mountain bike. Apart from Theo we have nobody that gets behind the opponent's backline, or even try to! That's something Wenger needs to address.

    I said before we bought Ozil that we didn't need him and that we should invest in at least one winger or wide forward, as well as a striker. It was obvious to everyone that we needed reinforcements there. I'll give Wenger and Gazidis the benefit of the doubt and see what they do in January/next summer.
    Last edited by Penguin; 11-11-2013 at 05:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin View Post
    I'll give Wenger and Gazidis the benefit of the doubt and see what they do in January/next summer.
    And if they do nothing? Will you sack them?

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    What?

    When did I become the chairman?

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