Champions League Group Stage Draw. 25th August 16:45 BST.

[Edinburgh Gooner]

They have played in the UEFA Cup/Europa League a couple of times but they didn't really do anything too significant in that time.

So they should really be in the last pot, but due to the successes of "the top four" over the years they have "earnt" their stripes lol.

[Niall_Quinn]

Looking around mainstream media sites today, I have noticed a few articles stating that "we have earnt our place among the top seeds." We have been in the top pot for years even after having to endure many play offs to reach the group stages. Is this down to our pedigree in European competition over the last 14 years? Spuds and Citeh, on thier debut seasons have been dumped into pot 3. If co efficients are used to determine number of places etc, does the seeding come down to past performances? I find it weird that teh german winners and runners up have been put in the bottom two pots tbh.

Sounds like City couldn't buy the pot of their choice. Shame. If their soap opera survives another five years then maybe they'll actually earn a spot, if such a thought has even crossed their minds.

[Edinburgh Gooner]

Sounds like City couldn't buy the pot of their choice. Shame. If their soap opera survives another five years then maybe they'll actually earn a spot, if such a thought has even crossed their minds.

[I_Killed_Kenny]

is it me or is georgie thompson looking fitter than usual!!! gotta get back to some work, goddam!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

So they should really be in the last pot, but due to the successes of "the top four" over the years they have "earnt" their stripes lol.

Not really, Citeh are where they are because that's how well they have performed. Citeh are in pot three because they have been in Europe more than the rest of them.

[Marc Overmars]

is it me or is georgie thompson looking fitter than usual!!! gotta get back to some work, goddam!

I would like to have sex with her.

She is freakishly small though.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Champions League music.

Sky's programme is on now. Dwight Yorke, Ray Wilkins and Alan Smith are in the studio.

[cricketsi]

is it me or is georgie thompson looking fitter than usual!!! gotta get back to some work, goddam!

She's rough, and she always has been.

[Cripps_orig]

Dwight Yorke, Ray Wilkins and Alan Smith in the studio

No City representative

[GP]

So's your penis