He hasn't won it in 17 attempts. So I would say yes, he is clueless against top quality. It is easier to win the league than the CL. Unless you wind back to 2004 when only crap teams were left in the semis and we still couldn't get amongst themOriginally Posted by the ollie and the ivy
no
easier to win the league? you what now? chelsea finished 6th when they won the champions league. doesn't get it right against the big teams? my mistake i thought we had beaten spurs, napoli, dortmund, liverpool and bayern this year.
We're into December and we're looking tired at the wrong time with Man City and Chelsea to play next.
He hasn't won the league in over 9 years.
Just listening to Henry and Gary....it's the fatigue that's a worry for City and going forward. We'll need to buy in January and Wenger will have to rethink his strategy if he's going to try and coast through a game. Arteta's sending off means players had to work twice as hard.....
I wouldn't say the game at the Emirates cost us. We had our necks out in front and looked in control of things. Oh well....
as you keep gleefully telling us. i find it fascinating how you have hardly been on here all season yet as soon as we draw a game you come back very quickly.
last trophy pelligrini won was also back in 2004. but you keep telling us that city are the best team and favourites for the title or is this another one of your arguments where you will contradict yourself completely?
Ollie, spuds and Liverpool?
Yeah because your points are invalid as is often the case, your argument revolves around things that happened almost a decade ago.
Do you really? That's interesting
Some perspective guys.
We have a massive game coming up on Saturday lunchtime with minimal time to prepare. Given that they had to essentially score 3 goals to go through, no matter what you'd say, we were playing at 50% and within ourselves with an eye on the game against City. This is even more true given that we have such a short recovery time in between this and the next game.
Look at Bayern last season in the 2nd leg. They were playing within themselves and nearly lost. It happens.
And I agree with those who say that winning or drawing Napoli doesn't give any confidence against Man City. The Dortmund example is a good game. Mind you I didn't think we played particularly well there either. We defended there well and stole a goal but did we play well? Hell no - perhaps not until the last ten minutes after we got the goal. But we couldn't have gone to United in any higher spirits and euphoria and in the first half, our players played as if they've never played together in their lives and paid for it in the first half.
The number one priority was to top the group and come out of that game without any injuries. And hopefully we've done that. It was a group that I had serious doubts of us being able to out of but we have.
In terms of coming second in the group, I think it means very little. Yes we draw some big teams but that's what the Champion's League is all about and as everyone has said we'll have to play them one time or another. If you ask me whether I'd prefer to go out to a crap team in the last 16 or a better one in the quarter finals, I'd say the latter. But regardless of where you go out, it'll hurt the same.
Of course recent history is against us no doubt. But this is a different animal of an Arsenal team. And let's not forget our best ever run in the CL came courtesy of having a difficult run with Real Madrid, Juventus and Villareal. Bring on the last 16 round. Best we can hope for is PSG. Worst we can hope for is Bayern but City showed that they are not unbeatable. And like someone else said, none of those big sides will fancy having to play us.
in terms of the context of the games. they were huge.
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