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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    This season we've been very good, but on paper perhaps our team lacks enough of those top top players City have, the likes of Kompany, Toure, Aguero, Silva. Add those to top performers like Navas, Zaballeta, Negredo, Nasri (Kolarov is excellent too) and you can see why they are as good as they are.

    Think we need one or two more heavyweights, players who believe they can beat anyone, anywhere.
    Pretty much agree but City are where they are solely because of a sugar daddy throwing money at them. Same with Chelsea. If they beat us it'll be because of their expensively assembled squad, not because of any tactical genius.
    We'recheading in the right direction but there's a way to go and it's difficult to see how we can ever compete with City of Chelsea while they're bankrolled like this. Utd did but only 'cos Fergie's a genius as has been shown by how they're doing now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    During the match yes as it can make a difference to the game and the way a player performs, after the match though it serves no purpose all it does is create a rift.

    His defence conceded 6 goals, so he's hardly faultless.
    What rift? At £140k a week, he should be able to take all kind of abuse from inside or outside the team. He disrespect those who paid his wages, he deserved it.
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    Can't wait for Wilshere to do a Ramsey next year

    Jeez. It astounds me that people don't get that he will be a game changing super player.

    He was shit today mind.
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    Re Wilshere. His best position is as a deep lying midfielder. That's where he played all through his debut coming of age season. It's really annoying but you could see him getting better game after game with more experience in that position.

    He is just not good enough to play any other role such as attacking playmaker or wing player or 2nd striker. The sad thing is the injury came at the wrong time for him and now he's been playing in so many different positions none of which are suited to him. In that way it's Wengers fault for playing him in all these other positions. AW keeps still saying that his best position is as a deep lying midfielder.

    I know it's a long time ago but that game against Barca in that position was an astonishing performer. The maturity and control on that game from that position. That's where he's best utilised and that's where he needs to play. He'll be awful anywhere else.

    Ozil is not a player who can win games by himself. He needs good players around him to utilise his talents fully and unfortunately we just don't have enough.

    What is our best team? I'm all for rotation but what is the best side we have. For me it still is Ozil, Walcott, Cazorla or Rosicky on the flank with Ramsey and Flamini. Wilshere should replace Ramsey or not play at all. We desperately need another quality striker and strong wing players.

    Anyway when all is said and done, you need consistency to win the league. It is imperative that heads don't drop and the fans and Wenger gets these players absolutely in top confidence mentally agains the Chavs. Win that and we are flying again. For all the atrocity of today were still top of the league and that's what consistency buys you .

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    Probably because Wilshere was up there with the rest of the team applauding the fans while Ozil was strolling back to the dressing room.
    After losing 6-3 you should be downbeat, he's use to winning after all.

    Yeah Wilshere went and applauded the fans, sounds like he couldn't be arsed to track back during the match to stop City attacks though which to me as a fan is more important than some meaningless applause after getting soundly beaten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    From what I heard Wilshere was awful, why was he not having a go at him rather than Ozil then (I haven't seen many comments about Ozil being dreadful), you also pointed out Wilshere was at fault for a goal which Ozil wasn't.

    Again though don't agree with doing it after a match, during yes, after no.
    Erm...... because Wilshere did go to thak the fans. Infact he threw his shirt into the crowd. Pity the por bastard who caught it, if he puts it on he'll immediatly fall to the ground & take 5 minutes to get up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Yes and no, sure they have an advantage but we also have chosen to sign the players we have, we've shown by signing Ozil that if we want to we can go after top quality, we just haven't. I think it shown in big games, let's not forget we use to have a team capable of taking on anyone, it's also the type of players we sign.....where is our Yaya Toure who basically leads and runs the midfield, where our Aguero (oh yeah we sold him to Man U).
    You conveniently overlook the fact we have Diaby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milla View Post
    What rift? At £140k a week, he should be able to take all kind of abuse from inside or outside the team. He disrespect those who paid his wages, he deserved it.
    When players argue it causes rifts, never good for team spirit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    During the match yes as it can make a difference to the game and the way a player performs, after the match though it serves no purpose all it does is create a rift.

    His defence conceded 6 goals, so he's hardly faultless.
    There are ways of conducting yourself and whatever the result you go and thank the fans for their support - they've given up their day to travel and watch you, they're paying your salary and if you've just got thumped they deserve your thanks even more than if you'd won. BFG was right IMO, it's not ideal for it to happen in public as it gives the media twinta ammo but football is an emotional game and these things will happen.

    How either player played is immaterial

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dein-machine View Post
    Erm...... because Wilshere did go to thak the fans. Infact he threw his shirt into the crowd. Pity the por bastard who caught it, if he puts it on he'll immediatly fall to the ground & take 5 minutes to get up.
    Shame he couldn't be bothered to put a shift in where it really matters during the match eh (that's what I'm hearing from today's comments, he wasn't tracking back or helping)? So he throws his shirt in the crowd and thanks them, would you rather see a player do his job on the pitch or play like sh*t and thank you at the end?

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