His name was ringing bells before he moved to PSG as the next wonderkid from Brazil.Originally Posted by JonasTC
His name was ringing bells before he moved to PSG as the next wonderkid from Brazil.
Im very well aware of that, i never said he wasnt good before, but it doesnt change that he didnt have his international breakthrough until the 2002 world cup and he didnt have his proper breakthrough to the Ronaldinho we know today until he was 24ish. Im just using it as an argument to BOBN, that he cant be writting Wilshere off at the age of 21
At 24 he became the best player in the world, one of the best players ever seen actually. Thats above and beyond "world class" and way above anything expected of Wilshere.Im very well aware of that, i never said he wasnt good before, but it doesnt change that he didnt have his international breakthrough until the 2002 world cup and he didnt have his proper breakthrough to the Ronaldinho we know today until he was 24ish. Im just using it as an argument to BOBN, that he cant be writting Wilshere off at the age of 21
Why cant Wilshere simply be expected to retain a bit of ball and warrant a place in a decent but not great Arsenal side. Why is that asking too much?
At 24... Wilshere is 21 with a really bad injury behind him, so he's probably even a year behind in his development. You know what Ronaldinho was doing at 21? Having disciplinary problems and getting into trouble with his coaches.
Im done arguing with you, when all you do is ignore facts, speculate and highlight parts of the truth to fit your own arguments. Have a nice day
Come on BOBN, now you're just making stuff up to fit your own arguments. He had a good world cup and opened the eyes of many, but powering his team? :D Ronaldo and Rivaldo were the guys who took that team to the final and won it
Good day to you too
Now you're just proving my point, taking 2 quotes from 2 different comments that had nothing to do with eachother, to try and make me look bad? Thats just lame and childish.
I wasnt attempting to imply they were related. Its just I laughed at both equally, would have been harsh for one to miss out on the laughing dino.
- Ronaldinho was critical to their world cup win, everybody in Britain knows that very well because he was personally responsible for killing England.
- Ronaldinho didnt suddenly become good at 24, he became the best player in the world at 24. We know where he was at 21 because he'd had just turned 22 at WC02. Im confident that by the the time he was 17 he had mastered the fundamental things id like Wilshere to master at 22. Im positive that if Wilshere was as good as Ronaldinho was at 21/22 he'd have been awarded a knighthood and BBC sports personality of the year.
BOBN is even adding gifs to his repertoire.
Big fan of BOBN me.
How is BOBN pronounced ?BOBN is even adding gifs to his repertoire.
Big fan of BOBN me.
Bob'on
Bob'en
BeOhBeEn ?
Great poster though, thoroughly needed and always backs his views.
BOBN
I thought this was about Ozil which is bad enough.Im very well aware of that, i never said he wasnt good before, but it doesnt change that he didnt have his international breakthrough until the 2002 world cup and he didnt have his proper breakthrough to the Ronaldinho we know today until he was 24ish. Im just using it as an argument to BOBN, that he cant be writting Wilshere off at the age of 21
Wilshere – oh hell no. That’s just too much of stretch.
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