As our only offensive player any real consequence, I do expect Walcott to effectively rescue Ozil from failure. The question is will Walcott be enough.Originally Posted by Dein-machine
From now on our training regimes should be based on getting the ball to Walcott at opportune moments. Lets stop indulging these feeble tiki-takers and play to our true strength.
"Ronaldo de Assis Moreira (born 21 March 1980), commonly known as Ronaldinho (Brazilian Portuguese:*[ʁonawˈdʒĩɲu]) or Ronaldinho Gaścho"
QUIT LYING.
Oh you think you get to start for Brazil if youre some random bum? I guarentee Ronaldinho would have been one of the best players in this league at 21. Same applies to Zidane. Lets not forget a clogger from France who couldnt get a game for the national team after a while strolled in and became the leagues best player (Cantona).
Last edited by BOBN; 16-12-2013 at 03:59 PM.
Its worrying that we may need Walcott to be on fire to keep our title challenge going. He's been far too inconsistant in recent years, how many times have we thought he was on the verge of greatness to then be kicked in the bollocks again.
His name was ringing bells before he moved to PSG as the next wonderkid from Brazil.
My math might be a bit off since i havent slept for 30+ hours, but looking at his birth date, doesnt that mean he is 22 in the summer of 2002? Both of them didnt break through? Both players didnt get their breakthrough at club level until they were 24ish. Its facts vs speculationBtw arent you kinda argumenting against yourself now on the Wilshere debate?
You say Wilshere will never be more than a mediocore player despite world class performances vs top level teams and have been apart of his national squad since 18. But you're argument for Ronaldinho being world class at 21 is, that he was part of the national squad and had a couple of world class performances?... I guess it only counts if it helps your own argument? :D
Last edited by JonasTC; 16-12-2013 at 04:19 PM.
Im very well aware of that, i never said he wasnt good before, but it doesnt change that he didnt have his international breakthrough until the 2002 world cup and he didnt have his proper breakthrough to the Ronaldinho we know today until he was 24ish. Im just using it as an argument to BOBN, that he cant be writting Wilshere off at the age of 21
Ronaldinho - Powered his team towards a WORLD CUP. End of.My math might be a bit off, but looking at his birth date, doesnt that mean he is 22 in the summer of 2002? Both of them didnt break through? Both players didnt get their breakthrough at club level until they were 24ish. Its facts vs speculation
You say Wilshere will never be more than a mediocore player despite world class performances vs top level teams and have been apart of his national squad since 18. But you're argument for Ronaldinho being world class at 21 is, that he was part of the national squad and had a couple of world class performances?... I guess it only counts if it helps your own argument? :D
Wilshere - A possession player who supposedly dominated one leg of a tie yet completed less passes, and helped his team retain less possession than the midfield he was supposed to be dominating. His team proceeded to be knocked out in the next leg.
Youre comparing the two? QUIY LYING.
At 24 he became the best player in the world, one of the best players ever seen actually. Thats above and beyond "world class" and way above anything expected of Wilshere.Im very well aware of that, i never said he wasnt good before, but it doesnt change that he didnt have his international breakthrough until the 2002 world cup and he didnt have his proper breakthrough to the Ronaldinho we know today until he was 24ish. Im just using it as an argument to BOBN, that he cant be writting Wilshere off at the age of 21
Why cant Wilshere simply be expected to retain a bit of ball and warrant a place in a decent but not great Arsenal side. Why is that asking too much?
Come on BOBN, now you're just making stuff up to fit your own arguments. He had a good world cup and opened the eyes of many, but powering his team? :D Ronaldo and Rivaldo were the guys who took that team to the final and won it
I thought this was about Ozil which is bad enough.Im very well aware of that, i never said he wasnt good before, but it doesnt change that he didnt have his international breakthrough until the 2002 world cup and he didnt have his proper breakthrough to the Ronaldinho we know today until he was 24ish. Im just using it as an argument to BOBN, that he cant be writting Wilshere off at the age of 21
Wilshere – oh hell no. That’s just too much of stretch.
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