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Thread: When do we start to believe ?

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    If he was that good Milan wouldn't have sold him and he wouldn't be in Brazil. Brazilians go back to Brazil to retire, he's just 24 which says a lot, why isn't he at another European club if he's that good?

    Reyes was a flop, how many times has he been picked for Spain since 2006? None, not even as a squad player. He wasn't mismanaged he just didn't have it in him, that's why he's never been a start for any of the teams he's played for, he's not stood out for any of the teams he's been at since he's left Arsenal.

    Vela is not bad, he's never coming back though and I'm not convinced he fits in at Arsenal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milla View Post
    You can say what you like. Pato is no flopped but blighted by injuries during his stay in Milan. Reyes was just a simple case of mismanaged by Arsenal. He was good at Madrid and won medals in Spain and Portugal.

    Vela is not bad choice either, 0.5 goal ration for nearly 2 season at Real Sociedad.
    Pato is a risk not worth taking IMHO. We essentially need a striker better than Giroud who is reliable and injury free. Pato's injury record is not pretty, not that dissimilar to Diaby. Moreover his level has dropped and he has lost quite a bit of pace due to the injuries he has had over the past few years.

    DO NOT WANT.

    Vela? He's made for La Liga...he had his chances here and failed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milla View Post
    Michu, Benteke and Pato are the best available right now. They are not in the top bracket but very very good players. All three of them come with more pace and technique compare to what we have now.
    benteke is clearly on strike until he gets his move. Michu looks like the new roque santa cruz

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    Podolski will be like a new signing I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nayan View Post
    benteke is clearly on strike until he gets his move. Michu looks like the new roque santa cruz
    I don't think Benteke is an upgrade on Giroud TBH. Sure he has more raw potential and is at an age where he can be developed but I don't think he's what we need right now. Him plus a world class striker would be great but we don't have the budget for that.

    I do rate Benteke, but not really highly.

    Michu IMHO would be a slight upgrade but he's not what we need. He's not mobile enough IMHO, he is more mobile than Giroud and a better finisher but there are other areas of his game that I don't think he excels over Giroud and he isn't the sort of player I would drop for Giroud.

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    Sorta opposite to the original purpose of this thread, but what position would you be disappointed with come May?

    Obviously it depends on a lot of things; transfers, injuries, the gap between final positions etc, but given your start to the season and the creep of optimism and hope that you had turned a corner it's only natural expectations will go up. I guess this question goes for the cups as well.

    I was trying to think of it in regards to my own team and despite me having no real expectations of top 4 this season [though I obviously hoped we'd challenge], that we are theoretically in a "title race" and bearing in mind Everton in 5th are just 4 points behind yourselves, I would still bite your hand off for 4th. As such, right now, I'd probably be a little disappointed if we didn't, especially if it meant finishing below Moyes.

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    Anything below 2nd would suck given the form we've shown so far.

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    Honestly, with the position we'd put ourselves in, I'll be disappointed with anything other than 1st.

    3rd or lower would be a disaster.
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Right now i would be fine with a 3rd place tbh, but if we're still 1st in april and then end up having a 2 weeks like we've just went through, i would probably be dissapointed ending up 3rd.

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    I'd be happy with 3rd, disappointed with anything less 'cos I think after Chelsea and City we're the best side.

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