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    It's a big if because this player is in the form of his life and it's the first time he's scored so many goals and it could very well be down to confidence. His manager has trusted him to lead the line and he's playing with a team that knows him. You never know if a new signing will have an immediate impact but this transfer just seems riskier. The change of environment may change him and he won't be an automatic first team starter here. Also, besides his pace, he's similar to Giroud and I wonder whether he'd be able to create chances for himself when crowded out around the box. I don't think this is Wenger dogma taking effect. Wenger has been off with his gem picking these days. Giroud and Gervinho were top goal scorers in France and he bought them off the back off title winning seasons and record goal tallies. It was the same for Chamakh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice View Post
    That takes Costa to almost 20 league goals half way through the season. That puts him into Suarez territory goals wise, although the latter has done it in 6 less games!

    Despite the fact I can't stand the bloke and didn't actually want him I stated quite regularly through the summer that the impact of Suarez was understated by many and had we signed him it would have made us title contenders in a single signing (it was before we had confirmed anybody). It's a crying shame we have had a forward of this quality at the club until recent times.
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    Suarez had been class for seasons and was great for his previous club as well. This is half a season so it's very early. He's certainly not in Suarez territory yet. It's like saying Ramsey is now in Iniesta territory. I haven't seen enough of him play, but what I've seen, playing style wise, he doesn't look like a great technical player and I haven't seen any goals which would suggest he's a master finisher. No chips, tight angle finishing, lifting it, bending it beyond the keeper.....no long range belters....they've been poacher goals and headers.

    The goals remind me of Ade's and Augero doesn't spring to mind at all and it has nothing to do with his stature. He has a great goal record but it's like when Ade banged in 30 and thought he was in Henry territory. Way to premature for that talk and it was just a case of good form and confidence.
    I was pretty precise about putting Costa in Suarez's league on goals alone for this season. I even contextualised the statement towards the end so that the intent could not be in doubt.

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    But why would make that comparison even in that context? I don't think I've misunderstood the context, I just wouldn't compare a striker on good form for half a season to someone whose shown he can do it over seasons and with different teams, plus internationals. Costa could be great player but the stats only point to a player on good form, that's it. We'd be taking a gamble.

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    Sick of Giroud missing sitter after sitter. Bring in Costa, as long as he scuffed it 30 times a year I am good.
    somebody put something in my milk

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    http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...-league-switch

    One of the big problems with Diego Costa is getting him to leave his club mid-season. Jackson Martinez sounds like he'd welcome a move maybe. Release clauses are about the same. He's a bit older but established international. Anyone seen him play? Any rumours swirling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    But why would make that comparison even in that context? I don't think I've misunderstood the context, I just wouldn't compare a striker on good form for half a season to someone whose shown he can do it over seasons and with different teams, plus internationals. Costa could be great player but the stats only point to a player on good form, that's it. We'd be taking a gamble.
    To highlight that the fact he is a good player worth seriously considering. It was a completely legitimate and relevant means of comparing current players in the current season we're in. It doesn't mean it is a suggestion he is actually the player Suarez is.

    I've also long conceded he will be a gamble and argued that most players would be. Others might be less of a gamble but as far as I can see, someone of the quality of Suarez, would be extremely trickier to attain and significantly more money to state the bleeding least. So the 'lesser the gamble' the more money you pay...and some would argue more money equates to more of a gamble.

    The perplexity of whom one goes for is highlighted by the lack of viable players of top class quality people are putting forward in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice View Post
    To highlight that the fact he is a good player worth seriously considering. It was a completely legitimate and relevant means of comparing current players in the current season we're in. It doesn't mean it is a suggestion he is actually the player Suarez is.

    I've also long conceded he will be a gamble and argued that most players would be. Others might be less of a gamble but as far as I can see, someone of the quality of Suarez, would be extremely trickier to attain and significantly more money to state the bleeding least. So the 'lesser the gamble' the more money you pay...and some would argue more money equates to more of a gamble.

    The perplexity of whom one goes for is highlighted by the lack of viable players of top class quality people are putting forward in this thread.
    as both us and Liverpool are showing you don't need a lot of world class players. we have one although he hasn't really shown it for us in Ozil and Liverpool have one in Suarez yet we are the top two sides. not seen costa play so cant comment really but we do need options and it would also be nice to have an option where we can play 4-4-2 if needs be. squads need options and bendtner isn't one. he doesn't want to be here, we don't want him and he is average. sanogo is he still injured or anything who knows, who cares. and there is no one else. £30m is a lot of money but does it really matter how much the club spend, they wont go bankrupt by spending £30m and also they wont reduce prices by not spending and any prices rises would occur regardless of spending. So why not.... lets go crazy.

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    Suarez has a 100 million release clause to foreign clubs...

    130 million to a premier league team...

    130 plus a pound ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by milla View Post
    Sick of Giroud missing sitter after sitter. Bring in Costa, as long as he scuffed it 30 times a year I am good.


    Costa haters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice View Post
    To highlight that the fact he is a good player worth seriously considering. It was a completely legitimate and relevant means of comparing current players in the current season we're in. It doesn't mean it is a suggestion he is actually the player Suarez is.

    I've also long conceded he will be a gamble and argued that most players would be. Others might be less of a gamble but as far as I can see, someone of the quality of Suarez, would be extremely trickier to attain and significantly more money to state the bleeding least. So the 'lesser the gamble' the more money you pay...and some would argue more money equates to more of a gamble.

    The perplexity of whom one goes for is highlighted by the lack of viable players of top class quality people are putting forward in this thread.
    He's worth considering, especially with Giroud off form. But I'm skeptical of the goal tally comparisons at this stage. Look at it this way, a few months ago you could compare Giroud's goal tally with RVP's. Those sort of comparisons should only be made of a longer period. He could be a great player but you can understand why I'm 50/50 on this one, right? Would be interesting to see how he plays for us. Regarding other forwards...I don't watch enough football to be perfectly honest. Just have an idea of the type we need.

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