Hindsight
Hindsight
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Originally Posted by LDG
You're a scumbag!
You definitely want a piece of the action bro, I can feel your pain.
somebody put something in my milk
Giroud has probably had the bigger impact this season though. out of Negrado's 21 goals, 17 have come at home. we know how good city are home yet their big problems have been away from home this season hence why they are behind us so in a sense given Giroud has been superb for us and helping us stay at the top pretty much every week since september its possible to argue he has the bigger impact so far.
Negrado has been very very good this season, would have been nice to sign him ourselves using hindsight but Giroud has been more influential so far this season, just need to add in quality this window
It's funny you say Giroud is the one that's been helping keep us top since September because he's been pretty poor since November in reality. He was pretty good before that I grant you, but I think his contribution has tailed off a lot since November, hence the call for a striker by many people.
As for Negredo's goals, since Aguero has been out Negredo has been crucial for them with his goals. He did take a bit of time to settle (as expected when a player moves country) but now he's scored 17 goals in 18 games.
My observation in that in recent months we've lacked a threat up front at times when Giroud has played, he hasn't offered much of a threat in front of goal.
in terms of goals yes his performances tailed off but his hold up play and bullying defenders etc has been superb most games and gives us a great target man and been key in our performances and allowing the others to score. ok yes he is a striker and therefore should be scoring goals but he brings in the others so well that he almost makes up for it.
we are all wanting a new striker but not to replace Giroud but to help him. given he was the sole striker for most of the season he has done brilliantly, he needs help though and hopefully we get the striker we need in this window
Don't get spellbound........ I repeat, do not get spell bound.
Let's hope your mates never join this site.
I'm not really sure I understand the hindsight assertion sometimes...... Even if you'd never heard of Negredo till he donned the light blue of City, does anybody actually believe Wenger has only just become aware of him?
The fans don't make the signings, so why does it matter in reality if we see what a good player, a well known player is after he comes to the prem? The guys that matter....ie the scouts, Wenger etc etc, knew even more about Negredo a year ago than we do now..... and we all know plenty about him after 17 goals. The long and short of that is.....the club were already well aware of Negredo and passed him up. Probably because they felt Higuain and Suarez were better players, but that didn't end well.
Secondly..... had Wenger not spent half the summer being mugged off by Guardiola's brother and actually signed Suarez or Higuain, I doubt a single person would have taken issue with it on the grounds of Giroud being sufficient. If City have room for 3 top forwards like Djeko, Aguero and Negredo.....all players that ideally you'd play centre forward (and I should add that Djeko too has 15/16 goals himself) why on earth is there only room for one at Arsenal in Giroud?
Even if Giroud was twice the player he is, we would still need another top forward in my honest view. The basis of my thinking is that we need a few good forwards, not 1. If that new forward we bring in is so good that he forces Giroud out of the team then so bloody be it. That is football at this level. If Giroud doesn't like it, then he can raise his game. If he can't raise his game then he needs to step aside.....but Bendtner and Sanogo should not be his only competition, or least not the level of his competition.
Last edited by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice; 15-01-2014 at 10:27 PM.
Agree with Blink - I really don't get what there is to argue about here? We all agree that one central striker isn't enough for a long season, and that any new signing should ideally be awesome, irrespective of who we already have, if we want to take this team to the next level. The funny thing is, it sounds like everyone is making the same point, but still somehow managing to disagree about it?
hindsight
noun
1.
understanding of a situation or event only after it has happened or developed.
"with hindsight, I should never have gone"
No one was calling for us to sign Negredo before he went to city. We weren't even linked with him. For all we know he wouldn't have wanted to come here anyway. We certainly wouldn't have been able to win a bidding war for him.
All this 'if only' bollocks is nothing but frustration borne out of hindsight.
It's ok to want another striker without all the fawning as if he's the only player in the world who could have improved us.
NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.
Ahh
Good old GW
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