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    Quote Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico View Post
    Bad result and performance but some of the responses are cringeworthy to say the least.

    Most of us would have jumped at the chance to be 1 point-of-top past the mid point of the season, even after we signed Ozil let alone before that! We're competing with two squad filled with infinite money signings and top quality international players unable to even make the bench. And we're still giving a good account of ourselves ......

    Chill out, despite Man City's result tonight, they will also drop points along the way and give us oppurtunities to catch them up.

    There were always going to be setbacks along the way. Last night will be one of them - the real test of our character is to see how well we bounce back against them.
    Not really relevant. Would we have jumped at this position having been 7 points clear less than 2 months ago is the more pertinent one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBK View Post
    Not really relevant. Would we have jumped at this position having been 7 points clear less than 2 months ago is the more pertinent one.
    Given that City's form since then has been P12 W11 D1 L0 it's hardly a huge capitulation.

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    I think that drives home the point of just how buggeringly hard it is to win the Premiership.

    It's been some time since we properly challenged and it's easy to forget the consistent level on you need to perform at.
    We've been playing at a consistent level for months, the best league record of any English team in a calendar year last year.
    But that does tend to gloss over the crunch period we experienced this time last year.

    From Jan up until the Bayern away game in mid March, which is generally considered "The Turning Point", our record in all competitions was: W6 D3 L5

    Which includes losses to Bayern, City, Chelsea, Sperms and Blackburn and draws with Swans, Soton and Pool.

    It may be that this time of year is when the attritional effect of fatigue and injuries finally start to impact.

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    I have a feeling we’ve adapted our style of play to preserve energy. We hardly pressed Southampton and we’ve been taking it easy for a while now so maybe the message is to win but play smart and save energy. Injuries are kicking in because of fatigue so maybe that has the team pumping their brakes. We really need to add numbers this Friday if that’s the worry. We need competition for places to keep performance levels up. Some won’t agree but I think Monreal has really stepped his game up to keep Gibbs out of the squad. Gibbs will be desperate to win his spot back. Same goes for Pod. You can see he really wants to get game time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I have a feeling we’ve adapted our style of play to preserve energy. We hardly pressed Southampton and we’ve been taking it easy for a while now so maybe the message is to win but play smart and save energy. Injuries are kicking in because of fatigue so maybe that has the team pumping their brakes. We really need to add numbers this Friday if that’s the worry. We need competition for places to keep performance levels up. Some won’t agree but I think Monreal has really stepped his game up to keep Gibbs out of the squad. Gibbs will be desperate to win his spot back. Same goes for Pod. You can see he really wants to get game time.
    This team is being built to contain.

    Something you never thought you'd see from a Wenger side.

    Now it's a serious struggle to win games after going behind, they're not used to it and it throws the initial game plan out the window.
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    The Ramsey and Walcott injuries are bloody unfortunate, just as both had stepped up their game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    This team is being built to contain.

    Something you never thought you'd see from a Wenger side.

    Now it's a serious struggle to win games after going behind, they're not used to it and it throws the initial game plan out the window.
    on the plus side, we rarely go behind. I'm really not bothered about the 'style' issue. For years arsenal fans have been moaning that results are more important than being pretty. If you want the best of both worlds, you need to pile up £30m squad players like Man City so that when your best attacking players (like Ramsey and Walcott) get injured, you've got a Dzeko-level player to bring on.

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    The first half against Southampton is a worry whichever way you cut it. Haven't seen us play in such a negative and toothless manner for years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBK View Post
    Not really relevant. Would we have jumped at this position having been 7 points clear less than 2 months ago is the more pertinent one.
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    Given that City's form since then has been P12 W11 D1 L0 it's hardly a huge capitulation.
    @IBK - Letters point is spot on. We've actually been quite fairly good, it's just that City have been on a ridicolous level.

    We all suspected that City and Chelsea would eventually close the gap as their squads were bigger and everyone still had them as the favourites so I don't know why we're all surprised all of a sudden. To be where we are is a cause of celebration, not misery and doom.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann View Post
    I think that drives home the point of just how buggeringly hard it is to win the Premiership.

    It's been some time since we properly challenged and it's easy to forget the consistent level on you need to perform at.
    We've been playing at a consistent level for months, the best league record of any English team in a calendar year last year.
    But that does tend to gloss over the crunch period we experienced this time last year.

    From Jan up until the Bayern away game in mid March, which is generally considered "The Turning Point", our record in all competitions was: W6 D3 L5

    Which includes losses to Bayern, City, Chelsea, Sperms and Blackburn and draws with Swans, Soton and Pool.

    It may be that this time of year is when the attritional effect of fatigue and injuries finally start to impact.
    To an extent yes it does highlight how hard it can be at times, but it's not always this way.

    Man Utd were 12 points clear this point last season, despite not playing that well and having dropped not that much fewer points than we have this season. It's just that everyone else was crap and no one else was consistent enough to put together a run to challenge for the league. City had thier problems with Mancini, Chelsea had the problems of Benitez/Di Matteo and we were our usual selves. If we were up against similar City and Chelsea teams this year, we've be storming the league right now (assuming the current Utd team with Moyes).

    It's just our fucking luck isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    This team is being built to contain.

    Something you never thought you'd see from a Wenger side.

    Now it's a serious struggle to win games after going behind, they're not used to it and it throws the initial game plan out the window.
    Thankfully, we’ve ditched the suicidal high backline. Was reading Arseblog today or one of the columns and didn’t we manage to beat Southampton during the home tie because we pressed them when high up the pitch? Goalkeeper mistakes? I thought our defensive tactic was to press within the first few seconds of losing the ball then back off and contain if unsuccessful. We’ve stopped pressing as hard and it’s not the first time we’ve seen this. I remember when we first started playing a 4-3-3 we were pressing hard and as a unit but that stopped as the season went on. We’d also see a high pressing game in odd games like that one game against Chelsea and then we’d abandon that tactic. We’ll see what we do over the next few games.

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