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    Until we start making use of the funds we have earned, I won't accept that we have no chance against the oil rich clubs. If we fail again this season, I'll look back on this day with sheer frustration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Until we start making use of the funds we have earned, I won't accept that we have no chance against the oil rich clubs. If we fail again this season, I'll look back on this day with sheer frustration.
    Exactly! SAF won the league despite these two shit teams. Shows what you can do with decent resources and a great manager. We have the resources now but we do not have a SAF or a great manager.
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    I think we could compete, we just need a manager who's not risk averse.

    Wenger is showing in this transfer window what he's been showing for years, he hasn't got the stomach for the fight, any other manager would be looking at strengthening the team to give us something extra in the title race, he goes and signs some has been crock who hasn't played for 3 months and who will have no impact at all.

    That sums it up really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    I think we could compete, we just need a manager who's not risk averse.

    Wenger is showing in this transfer window what he's been showing for years, he hasn't got the stomach for the fight, any other manager would be looking at strengthening the team to give us something extra in the title race, he goes and signs some has been crock who hasn't played for 3 months and who will have no impact at all.

    That sums it up really.
    I agree with your summary of the transfer window, Zimm, but I genuinely think that Wenger is both our greatest asset and our limiting factor. When you consider everything - including the development of players - there are arguably no better managers in the league. SAF could have won the league with our squad, but he is a one off. Mourinho and Pellegrini couldn't - and even if we spent what we can - I'm not sure they could pull it off without their owners' billions.

    You only have to look at Chelsea's succession of 'big name' managers - or Spur's chopping and changing to see that it would be very, very difficult to succeed with a new manager who would come inevitably with weaker area's - whether in reputation; eye for a developmental player or technical expertise - than Wenger has. What makes me tear mmy hair out is Wenger's seeming choice, every time, to manage with the handbreak on - and his aversion to seeking coaching (tactical?) assistance.
    Putting the laughter back into manslaughter

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    Exactly! SAF won the league despite these two shit teams. Shows what you can do with decent resources and a great manager. We have the resources now but we do not have a SAF or a great manager.
    You're a fucking spoiled brat, go cheer for City or smth. Wenger has taken this club from average to one of the biggest clubs in the world, and we are today one of the few clubs with a healthy economy. He could easily have taken a job at an infinite money club earlier in his career and win a couple of trophies and be called "the great one" like Mourinho or whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonasTC View Post
    You're a fucking spoiled brat, go cheer for City or smth. Wenger has taken this club from average to one of the biggest clubs in the world, and we are today one of the few clubs with a healthy economy. He could easily have taken a job at an infinite money club earlier in his career and win a couple of trophies and be called "the great one" like Mourinho or whatever.
    He shouldve left tbh.. Wouldve loved to see if he won anything elsewhere. Unfortunately he is still with us..
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    You should
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JonasTC View Post
    You're a fucking spoiled brat, go cheer for City or smth. Wenger has taken this club from average to one of the biggest clubs in the world, and we are today one of the few clubs with a healthy economy. He could easily have taken a job at an infinite money club earlier in his career and win a couple of trophies and be called "the great one" like Mourinho or whatever.
    We won lots of trophies before Wenger, you know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBK View Post
    We won lots of trophies before Wenger, you know?
    Really?

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    I am obviously not a Gooner and don`t thus have to pay top money to see a game of a football, but I think you need to remember you could be a club in turmoil and no future expansion fully defined - like a certain club like THFC.

    I am sure those who remember the days of Arsenal under Don Howe, will think things have been a lot worse.

    Chin up.

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