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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    2013 Champions
    QED...

    That's exactly what they've been talking about.
    Champions and Abject Failure are not the only 2 options...

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    Oh, and penguins > bears tbh, much less likely to rip your face off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    No - the improvement we all wanted to see. Improvement is a process, not an instantaneous transformation. We started tightening up in 2013 and now we have taken that on to a title challenge in 2014. Some have already concluded we are out of the race, despite the fact the chavs and gypos are dropping just as many points as we are. We aren't out of it at all. We are very much in it. Who can say this isn't a big improvement on pissing around in 5th trying to scrape a CL spot. Certainly it could all still go tits up, but at least wait to see if that happens before killing the manager. It's like that fat bag of shit Martin Samuel, demanding Wenger give his excuses for losing to Utd before the game was even played.
    The bookies think we're out of it and anyone who's watched use capitulate regularly in the last 8 years isn't going to be convinced we're in it. We've started the 1st part of our hard run by dropping 5 points out of 6, second part is in March and I have no confidence we can come out of it unscathed as time and time again we're unable to beat the best sides, this hasn't changed.

    It's an improvement, but as I said we did the same a few years back and collapsed, I don't see how that's any different to that thus far.

    How can you genuinely believe in a side who everything they are faced with adversity or come up against top sides fall? Until that changes noone is going to believe and it's not unreasonable to understand why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    QED...

    That's exactly what they've been talking about.
    Champions and Abject Failure are not the only 2 options...
    After 8 years, continuing to collapse when it matters isn't an option anymore either, if things have changed we need to reverse that trend, the points are all very good but what does it mean if you have nothing to show for it at the end of it all?

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    We have a tough run but we now have no more of those 'tough' games that the rest do, in the league. If we can win most of the games against the pubbers we'd have 80 points so hopefully that would be enough (I don't think we'll lose all four in a row though).

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost... View Post
    We have a tough run but we now have no more of those 'tough' games that the rest do, in the league. If we can win most of the games against the pubbers we'd have 80 points so hopefully that would be enough (I don't think we'll lose all four in a row though).
    The problem is the other teams are capable of winning the tough games, we've shown we're not, therein lies the problem. If we don't get some wins against the big boys we won't win the title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    The problem is the other teams are capable of winning the tough games, we've shown we're not, therein lies the problem. If we don't get some wins against the big boys we won't win the title.
    That is true but they've also shown greater capability in dropping points against the bottom half teams, hence why we're so close. If you can get your players to get over the disappointment of losing those big games (which is tough to keep doing granted) then in theory it makes no difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    The problem is the other teams are capable of winning the tough games, we've shown we're not, therein lies the problem. If we don't get some wins against the big boys we won't win the title.
    No, their problems are the easy games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    No, their problems are the easy games.
    Won't make a difference though because they'll end up with more points because in the big games they'll turn up. You won't win the title without proving you can beat the best teams, nor should you, you're suppose to be the best side if you win the title so should be able to take on and beat anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    After 8 years, continuing to collapse when it matters isn't an option anymore either, if things have changed we need to reverse that trend, the points are all very good but what does it mean if you have nothing to show for it at the end of it all?
    Depends what you mean by 'nothing to show'.

    If your only criteria for success is silverware (which I would suggest is far too simplistic) then we may well end up with 'nothing to show' from the season.
    If we collapse and end up with similar points to last season then I'll agree that there will not have been as much progress as it seemed, if any. That can only be determined at the end of the season though. Right now we're only 1 point off the top so you're scratching around for something to moan about so you're complaining about future events.

    Let's see where we are in May. So far we've been far more competitive than last year, we've been winning games that last year we'd have dropped points in, the defence is looking more solid (two freakish games accepted) and we've made our most ambitious signing arguably since Bergkamp. There are reasons for hope. I don't expect us to win the league but that should never have been the criteria for success this year.

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