Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
Ultimately, for a big club that's the criteria, it's about winning not coming 2nd all the time.
Agreed, but if we came 2nd that would be an improvement. It's heading in the right direction.

Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
The problem with the progress you're suggesting is in doesn't help us at all in the near future.
Of course it does. If we're closer to the title this year than the last 2 seasons when we weren't anywhere near the race then it's progress, it's something to build on. Whether we will build on that...well, that remains to be seen and I agree there have been false dawns before but, again, there's no point in moaning about future events. There are a few reasons for hope which I've mentioned. Right now we're heading in the right direction, we can either be pleased about that and hope it continues or be all Eeyore and expect the worst.

Agreed about the psychological thing with the top teams, we need to sort that out.