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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost... View Post
    I wouldn't have thought so. If that was his intention he messed up by getting us in to the Champions League again.
    nah, makes it harder for them to rail against him failing the prime directive in his yearly objectives and gives him a stronger hand in negotiating an exit package.
    plus he has to get another job and tarnishing his reputation as the man who always delivers CL football wouldnt help his CV

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan B'stard View Post
    nah, makes it harder for them to rail against him failing the prime directive in his yearly objectives and gives him a stronger hand in negotiating an exit package.
    plus he has to get another job and tarnishing his reputation as the man who always delivers CL football wouldnt help his CV
    Whereas the man who can deliver an 8-2 hammering against the team you used to compete with is a glistening achievement? You could be right in your reply I suppose but that would mean knowing what it says in the contract they have the 'right' to sack him for.

    It's an interesting debate but only interesting because it's pure supposition, from either side really. I mean, surely he could just say, I was the man who always qualified for the Champions League but then the board politicking became too strong to combat?

    I think a lot of clubs would want the guy anyway, personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost... View Post
    Whereas the man who can deliver an 8-2 hammering against the team you used to compete with is a glistening achievement? You could be right in your reply I suppose but that would mean knowing what it says in the contract they have the 'right' to sack him for.

    It's an interesting debate but only interesting because it's pure supposition, from either side really. I mean, surely he could just say, I was the man who always qualified for the Champions League but then the board politicking became too strong to combat?

    I think a lot of clubs would want the guy anyway, personally.
    it is pure supposition, but I'm saying look at his actions and use some nous.
    everone can see we need defenders, more steel whatever.Thats old news.

    however compare his tactics when facing superior opposition on the day:
    away to barca (tactics spot on, taking squad strengths/weaknesses into account; result distorted by bad refereeing)
    away to utd (tactics unrealistic/arogant/naive, taking squad strengths/weaknesses into account; result fair)

    if he honestly thought he was doing the right thing, he is on a par with roberto ' lets play the right way and not be tought to beat' martinez.
    I personally dont think he is that stupid and is totally aware of what he is doing - ie it was deliberate.

    i am sure others would want him. Im talking about how bad things are at arsenal. betwenn wenger-the board, and soon enough wenger-the support, I think they are at (if not past) the point of no return

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    You aren't talking solely about how things are at Arsenal though. Your suggestion is that Wenger might be doing this as an elaborate way for him to leave Arsenal with his reputation intact. Thus he would be able to say to prospective employers that what happened here is not from his doing. You brought up showing his CV to have the CL record on it so you can't say you're just talking about Arsenal!

    It'd have to be extreme opportunism. Unless he colluded with Wilshere to be injured, Sagna to be ill and tweet that he is still ill(!) in order to be in a position to play these young players that will get annihilated. We normally get overrun at Old Trafford, some of those times we've had to be thankful to Almunia for keeping us in it.

    All this to me takes away from the oppositon we played, who played very well.

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    of course he didnt arrange for sagna and vermalen and wilshere to be out.
    nevertheless, he failed to prepare the squad properly for key fixtures, and at a time when the window was open. That is ridiculous.

    Then he fielded a weak team without any sense of preparation.

    The part about ticking the CL box is purely to say that he wont go so far as to cut off his nose to spite his face.

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    If he wanted to get sacked, he could have just shit on Ivan's desk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm View Post
    If he wanted to get sacked, he could have just shit on Ivan's desk.
    Ivan would swear it didn't stink and give him a pay rise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan B'stard View Post
    of course he didnt arrange for sagna and vermalen and wilshere to be out.
    nevertheless, he failed to prepare the squad properly for key fixtures, and at a time when the window was open. That is ridiculous.

    Then he fielded a weak team without any sense of preparation.

    The part about ticking the CL box is purely to say that he wont go so far as to cut off his nose to spite his face.
    Ok, taking all that at face value - why the sudden influx of signings now?

    I think he has fucked up but not as of a means to get sacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost... View Post
    Ok, taking all that at face value - why the sudden influx of signings now?
    Don't you know? Wenger threw the game so the evil board would finally see the truth. The man is a genius. Chess moves. A mastermind. Lol

    Bullshit aside, people are going to extreme lengths to explain away Wenger's flaws.

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    Wenger got a vote of confidence from the board after Sunday's defeat.

    That's more often than not followed by a sacking not too long afterwards.

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