Match reaction v Bayern

[Niall_Quinn]

People need to distinguish between criticising a performance or a string of performances over bashing.

Were all talking about shitheads who are on Twitter I assume? Fuckheads called Faisal from London or Mpongwe Mbu-Ebola from Croydon.

[Globalgunner]

We were right about Ramsey, up until he made a pact with Beelzebub at the start of this season.
Ramsey:" Make me the best midfielder in the world"
Devil: "Okay, but it will only be for 3 months and it will cost you the life of one Cripps on GW"
Ramsey "Thats fine by me"

[Letters]

I have decided, having had a couple of days to calm down, that the ref wasn't to blame for ruining the game on Wednesday. Refs are told to send players off in these situations and actually get demoted if they don't. Well done UEFA/FIFA/whoever.

The intention of the sending off law is sound – stop defenders who know they’re the last man from cynically chopping a player down who would otherwise be bearing down on goal alone. The trouble is so many managers were whining about consistency than the powers that be made the rule hard and fast. The result is you still don’t get consistency because...well, situations aren’t identical, the ref still has to make a judgement about whether the defender was the last man, whether it was a clear goal scoring opportunity, whether there was another defender who might have got across to make a challenge.

The bottom line is a penalty is a clear goal scoring opportunity (The outcome of Wednesday's two not withstanding!). Any offence in the area which means a penalty is given is punishment enough unless it’s a particularly nasty 2 footed challenge but they rarely happen there.

[JonasTC]

Well, Boateng should still have been sent off before that situation, which would have made it a whole other game, at that time we were the best team... So i still think we can blame the ref for forgetting his balls. You're still right in that situation though

[Globalgunner]

The law is an ass, because it clearly prejudices keepers, whom have a right to come out and confront the player. How is is that in the majority of cases it is the keeper who is deemed to have fouled the player and not the other way round. Same happens when a player is trying to round the keeper and the keeper pushes the ball away at the feet of the player.

Player falls and keeper is sent off for basically doing his job.

The keeper can hardly win unless there are oceans of space between player, keeper and ball.

This is not simply because of Wednesdays incident. The law needs to be reviewed because it hamstrings the keeper into having no option but to stay on his line and watch what happens.

[Letters]

Well, Boateng should still have been sent off before that situation, which would have made it a whole other game, at that time we were the best team... So i still think we can blame the ref for forgetting his balls. You're still right in that situation though

Well there's the inconsistency, I guess the ref thought there was potentially a covering defender or that it was less of a clear goal-scoring opportunity.
In the name of consistency they've made a blanket rule but the ref still has to make a judgement call as to whether the rule applies.

[AFC Leveller]

I dunno if anybody has mentioned this but Koscielny was about to track Robben's run and was obstructed by that Manzukic ****. I know its late now but thats another decision that went against us.

[JonasTC]

Well there's the inconsistency, I guess the ref thought there was potentially a covering defender or that it was less of a clear goal-scoring opportunity.
In the name of consistency they've made a blanket rule but the ref still has to make a judgement call as to whether the rule applies.

Oh no, im not talking about that, i think that was a yellow. Im talking about a later situation, were he made a freekick that usually are a yellow (and therefor should have had his 2. yellow).

[Letters]

Oh no, im not talking about that, i think that was a yellow. Im talking about a later situation, were he made a freekick that usually are a yellow (and therefor should have had his 2. yellow).

Oh I see. Well, that's another thing about refs, a challenge which is a stonewall booking is often not one if the player has been booked already. I don't like seeing sending offs left right and centre but it is another inconsistency.

[Özim]

Oh no, im not talking about that, i think that was a yellow. Im talking about a later situation, were he made a freekick that usually are a yellow (and therefor should have had his 2. yellow).

Well if the 1st shouldn't have been a yellow then he should have only had 1 anyway.

You're clutching at straws, we got beaten by the better side, that's it. We were never going to win this tie against Bayern, we had our chances early on, missed them and that was that.