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    Quote Originally Posted by JonasTC View Post
    We would also have Yaya Toure, C.Ronaldo and Zlatan, if he hadnt haggled for prices when they were young.

    Its all Wengers fault. Wenger out
    Of course it's his fault, he's the manager he lives by the sword dies by the sword. If his team don't win anything for 9 years and fail every time they have a good opportunity there's only one common denominator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munchies View Post
    Reading that we should've taken Liverpool to court over Suarez, he did have a £40m clause, the cunts played it out perfectly

    John Henry has admitted that Suarez did have a £40m buyout clause but refused to sell him, gambling on Arsenal not taking them to court [AR]

    Ffs, should've pressed harder , offered £50m and we'd have signed him.
    Dunno how rules/laws work, but can we take them to court now and then get him for 40 (in the summer)?.... Make it happend Arsenal

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonasTC View Post
    Dunno how rules/laws work, but can we take them to court now and then get him for 40 (in the summer)?.... Make it happend Arsenal
    No clue, a big part of it would be if he wants to leave though. If they get CL, is offered even more money, he won't agree terms with us. CL was the only draw.

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    Our lack of quality in the final third is shocking. I'm not just talking about our centre forwards, pretty much all of our players are ineffective at breaking down teams and scoring goals and make it hard work every game. Toothless.

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    There's no chance of getting Suarez, if he moves it will be to one of the really big clubs like Barca, or Real, he seems happy at Liverpool, they look like they'll be in the CL and to be honest they are probably on an upward cycle and a marginally better side than us overall, can't see why he would want to move to us now tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernesto View Post
    To be honest, Zim (and while I don't want to make this à whole "door cause analysis"- this is only à reactionary post to à single match) I believe our play changed with the introduction of Fabregas. Couple to that Mourinho, Allardyce and Pulis pushing back football by 20 years, and it all contributed to Arsenal's trophyless drought.

    Fabregas was always dragging counter attacks back. Wenger thinks it's the right way forward (Hence the way Cazorla plays). He's wrong.
    Years ago I remember being infuriated that Wenger had replaced Viera with Cesc. Cesc was talented but too young to take up the burden He would slow our play down so much, then what does Wenger do? Build the team around him. We went form having a powerful, mobile, box to box all rounder, complemented by a sitter in Gilberto to an young inexperienced AMF learning to play CMF and slowing our counters down, and with Gilberto being a sitter we now had sitters. Later on Cesc came good but it took a while when because wasn't ready for the role.

    Then Wenger changed to a possession based style intead of our faster movement based attacking style, and here we are. Little movement, dribbling and penetration, just sideways and backwards passing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin View Post
    Our lack of quality in the final third is shocking. I'm not just talking about our centre forwards, pretty much all of our players are ineffective at breaking down teams and scoring goals and make it hard work every game. Toothless.
    Lack of pace in our attacks that's the problem, when we have played with pace (very rarely) we've looked dangerous, unfortunately Wenger is obssessed with tippy tappy and just won't let it go.

    I think it's boring and largely ineffective, we're better to watch when we release the ball quickly and don't check back or pass it sideways, we're also more likeley to score. The manager is just too stubborn for his own good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipsychubbs View Post
    Years ago I remember being infuriated that Wenger had replaced Viera with Cesc. Cesc was talented but too young to take up the burden He would slow our play down so much, then what does Wenger do? Build the team around him. We went form having a powerful, mobile, box to box all rounder, complemented by a sitter in Gilberto to an young inexperienced AMF learning to play CMF and slowing our counters down, and with Gilberto being a sitter we now had sitters. Later on Cesc came good but it took a while when because wasn't ready for the role.

    Then Wenger changed to a possession based style intead of our faster movement based attacking style, and here we are. Little movement, dribbling and penetration, just sideways and backwards passing.
    Pretty much and on top of that it's shite to watch to be honest, but you know how it is, he never learns and sticks to his guns year on year. You'd think after failing to pick up anything for 8 years he might consider something different.

    I won't pull any punches, I put all the blame on Wenger for this, his team, his tactics, his subs, his team selections, his style of play, his decisions not to sign players and rely on crocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post

    I won't pull any punches, I put all the blame on Wenger for this, his team, his tactics, his subs, his team selections, his style of play, his decisions not to sign players and rely on crocks.

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    I also think that this team knows it has more or les reached its target (top 4) and can afford to take things easily now. These players and manager only get going when their beloved trophy is in danger of slipping away. When Villa were good in 08/09, Wenger went out and bought Arshavin and gave a really good go to make sure we finished top 4. Last season, when we lost to Spuds and looked likely to miss out, the team suddently found their mojo and got there in the end.

    I just think that they only get going if/when CL footy is in danger.

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