Wenger Out ?

[Letters]

Yes. Wigan won a cup and then went down.
I've said numerous times that our failure to win any trophies at all is damning. But there's no doubt the billionaire-fuelled juggernauts make it harder than it used to be.
Of course there will be exceptions but if you look at who won those 9x4 trophies you won't fine too many.

[Globalgunner]

Yes. Wigan won a cup and then went down.
I've said numerous times that our failure to win any trophies at all is damning. But there's no doubt the billionaire-fuelled juggernauts make it harder than it used to be.
Of course there will be exceptions but if you look at who won those 9x4 trophies you won't fine too many.

they went down, what does that prove or how is it even relevant. Swansea are struggling. its obvious that the reason they struggle is playing in Europe. Sunderland will be in the Europa next season, they may go down this season.

All it proves is that you dont need money to win a cup. You can however be lucky. Wengers teams are neither good enough or lucky enough. Another 10 years from now, it will not have changed. IMO

[Globalgunner]

Yes. Wigan won a cup and then went down.
I've said numerous times that our failure to win any trophies at all is damning. But there's no doubt the billionaire-fuelled juggernauts make it harder than it used to be.
Of course there will be exceptions but if you look at who won those 9x4 trophies you won't fine too many.

they went down, what does that prove or how is it even relevant. Swansea are struggling. its obvious that the reason they struggle is playing in Europe. Sunderland will be in the Europa next season, they may go down this season.

All it proves is that you dont need money to win a cup. You can however be lucky. Wengers teams are neither good enough or lucky enough. Another 10 years from now, it will not have changed. IMO

[LDG]

Hasn't been too bad this year.

We can certainly build on these foundations.

Pissed off we didn't get a striker in January, but then again, it's pointless wasting 20mil + on someone who isn't what you really wanted.

Seems obvious we went all out for Suarez, and got fucked over, but that's footy for you, and I don't blame Wenger for holding onto the cash if he couldn't get the man he wanted.

I've come to the conclusion that the same frustrations will always prevelent with AW, as he's a stubborn old cunt. But he's our stubborn old cunt, and I still think he's one of the best managers out there, and until someone can come up with a better choice of coach, who isn't reliant on mega money to put himself on "the best" list, we'd be stupid to get rid.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Hasn't been too bad this year.

We can certainly build on these foundations.

Pissed off we didn't get a striker in January, but then again, it's pointless wasting 20mil + on someone who isn't what you really wanted.

Seems obvious we went all out for Suarez, and got fucked over, but that's footy for you, and I don't blame Wenger for holding onto the cash if he couldn't get the man he wanted.

I've come to the conclusion that the same frustrations will always prevelent with AW, as he's a stubborn old cunt. But he's our stubborn old cunt, and I still think he's one of the best managers out there, and until someone can come up with a better choice of coach, who isn't reliant on mega money to put himself on "the best" list, we'd be stupid to get rid.

Well all those years ago we were told that summer 2014 would be the time we would start competing again. We're pretty close to that now. The Ozil signing made sure we cemented top 4 and to the club's surprise, we began competing a year sooner than planned. Maybe that explains Wenger's stubbornness and lack of transfer activity in the January window? Doesn't want to splash and pay over the odds when he knows he has a mammoth transfer pot in the summer? Who knows.

And if he decides to leave then he's leaving us in a pretty good place. Mertesacker, Rosicky and judging from reports today, Ramsey too, have all penned new deals. We have a solid defensive unit, an abundance of quality midfielders. We have a great stadium + training facilities. Wenger said a few years ago that when he would leave Arsenal he would leave it in a brilliant position for the new manager.

If he leaves, I think it's fair to say he's done that. He has left his legacy.

[selassie]

Well all those years ago we were told that summer 2014 would be the time we would start competing again. We're pretty close to that now. The Ozil signing made sure we cemented top 4 and to the club's surprise, we began competing a year sooner than planned. Maybe that explains Wenger's stubbornness and lack of transfer activity in the January window? Doesn't want to splash and pay over the odds when he knows he has a mammoth transfer pot in the summer? Who knows.

And if he decides to leave then he's leaving us in a pretty good place. Mertesacker, Rosicky and judging from reports today, Ramsey too, have all penned new deals. We have a solid defensive unit, an abundance of quality midfielders. We have a great stadium + training facilities. Wenger said a few years ago that when he would leave Arsenal he would leave it in a brilliant position for the new manager.

If he leaves, I think it's fair to say he's done that. He has left his legacy.

Yeah I agree with that. He's left the squad in a pretty healthy state, it needs investment, but not major investment, certain areas of the squad are in pretty good shape.

I personally want Arsene to step down now, I don't believe he has it in him to move us up a gear. I believe he's too "wedded" in his principles and not flexible enough or pragmatic enough to move us forward.

We need someone progressive, someone who is willing to take a chance and invest in the squad in the right areas, somebody who has new and inventive ideas.

Thanks Arsene, but your time is done, let someone else have a crack.

Edited to add: I think the club and to a lesser degree Arsene have been selling us the dream/future for far too long. I accept that we may have had financial restrictions placed on us post stadium move and accept we are competiting with a couple of clubs with unlimited budgets, but I won't accept the flawed player recruitment policy our club operates. IMO, Wenger doesn't want to pay over the odds period, he has his valuations and that's that. If anything this summers transfer market will be more difficult than any of the recent years as it's World Cup year, Prices inflate etc.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Yeah I agree with that. He's left the squad in a pretty healthy state, it needs investment, but not major investment, certain areas of the squad are in pretty good shape.

I personally want Arsene to step down now, I don't believe he has it in him to move us up a gear. I believe he's too "wedded" in his principles and not flexible enough or pragmatic enough to move us forward.

We need someone progressive, someone who is willing to take a chance and invest in the squad in the right areas, somebody who has new and inventive ideas.

Thanks Arsene, but your time is done, let someone else have a crack.

Edited to add: I think the club and to a lesser degree Arsene have been selling us the dream/future for far too long. I accept that we may have had financial restrictions placed on us post stadium move and accept we are competiting with a couple of clubs with unlimited budgets, but I won't accept the flawed player recruitment policy our club operates. IMO, Wenger doesn't want to pay over the odds period, he has his valuations and that's that. If anything this summers transfer market will be more difficult than any of the recent years as it's World Cup year, Prices inflate etc.

Seeing Man Utd falter is also good for us because Gazidis will not pick someone incompetent for the job. He'll go for a big name knowing there's too much at stake.

And having a manager that is tactically naive can also be seen as a bonus. When the new manager comes in he can instantly improve us tactically which will hopefully get 10-15% more out of the players and the system. Perhaps we won't play the same bloody formation every stadium we go to.

I wanted Wenger gone at the beginning of the season but I just don't know anymore. We started off so well and if we tweak one or two things, there's no reason why we can't challenge next season with this lunatic in charge. Changing managers could work out well or it could be a disaster. Sometimes you find that when you give up, you do it a time when you were just about to succeed.

This season has been such a head fuck and I seriously don't know whether I want him to stay or go.

[selassie]

Seeing Man Utd falter is also good for us because Gazidis will not pick someone incompetent for the job. He'll go for a big name knowing there's too much at stake.

And having a manager that is tactically naive can also be seen as a bonus. When the new manager comes in he can instantly improve us tactically which will hopefully get 10-15% more out of the players and the system. Perhaps we won't play the same bloody formation every stadium we go to.

I wanted Wenger gone at the beginning of the season but I just don't know anymore. We started off so well and if we tweak one or two things, there's no reason why we can't challenge next season with this lunatic in charge. Changing managers could work out well or it could be a disaster. Sometimes you find that when you give up, you do it a time when you were just about to succeed.

This season has been such a head fuck and I seriously don't know whether I want him to stay or go.

I am pretty sure Gazidis will let Arsene handpick his successor...which is pretty much what United did with Fergie picking Moyes. I am not so sure I would be happy for Arsene to handpick his successor, I have a feeling he would put his "principles" first.

Given what we are seeing this season I don't see what Arsene can give to this team anymore, the same flaws are rearing there head again for me, I'll be honest I have had enough, I am done with it. I personally don't feel he should be given time, time for what? he won't change, the January window was proof in itself that he's stuck in his old ways. IMHO the Ozil signing in the Summer pretty much saved him, there was mutiny in the camp prior to that signing because quite frankly he made an absolute mess of last summer's Window, there was 70million sitting in the bank and he/we couldn't complete any deals.

Of course there looks to have been progress of sorts this season...but given our recent wobbles, we sit 6 points ahead of 5th place with 3 extremely difficult games coming up....progress really?

[Niall_Quinn]

I am pretty sure Gazidis will let Arsene handpick his successor which is pretty much what United did with Fergie letting him pick Moyes. I am not so sure I would be happy for Arsene to handpick his successor because I have a feeling he would put his "principles" first.

Given what we are seeing this season I only don't see what Arsene can give to this team anymore, the same flaws are rearing there head again for me, I'll be honest I have had enough, I am done with it. I personally don't feel he should be given time, time for what? he won't change, the January window was proof in itself that he's stuck in his old ways. IMHO the Ozil signing in the Summer pretty much saved him, there was mutiny in the camp prior to that signing because quite frankly he made an absolute mess of the last summer's Window, he 70million sitting in the bank and couldn't complete any deals.

Of course there looks to have been progress of sorts this season but given our recent wobbles, we sit 6 points ahead of 5th place with 3 extremely difficult games coming up.

We have Walcott and Ramsey, our two most improved players, out with long term injuries. We don't have the money to have another 2 Walcotts and another 2 Ramseys on the bench. Take 3xToure and 3xAguero out of City long term, Suarez and Gerard out of Liverpool, 3xHazard and ... (just how the hell are those fuckers top anyway?) and problems would be rearing for those clubs too. Fortunately the extent of our current problem is being 4 points off the lead instead of 14 as usual. Could we be four points closer if we'd had our best team on the pitch for any significant duration? It's not unreasonable to suggest yes.

What we're saying is, there have been definite signs of improvement. The defence is better beyond all recognition. The goalkeeper has come on brilliantly. Some of our "project" players are starting to finally come though, Walcott, Ramsey, Ox. We have signed one of the best players in the world (and even though he's tailed off in his first season in a 100mph with no rest kickabout league he's class and it will surface), we have led the way most of the way, we are still in with a shout at the top, took it to Bayern and outplayed them until fate intervened, we have announced massive new deals that open up the door to some serious reinforcements. In conclusion - sack the manager, he has nothing to offer.

[saintnickle]

Well all those years ago we were told that summer 2014 would be the time we would start competing again. We're pretty close to that now. The Ozil signing made sure we cemented top 4 and to the club's surprise, we began competing a year sooner than planned. Maybe that explains Wenger's stubbornness and lack of transfer activity in the January window? Doesn't want to splash and pay over the odds when he knows he has a mammoth transfer pot in the summer? Who knows.

And if he decides to leave then he's leaving us in a pretty good place. Mertesacker, Rosicky and judging from reports today, Ramsey too, have all penned new deals. We have a solid defensive unit, an abundance of quality midfielders. We have a great stadium + training facilities. Wenger said a few years ago that when he would leave Arsenal he would leave it in a brilliant position for the new manager.

If he leaves, I think it's fair to say he's done that. He has left his legacy.

""Maybe that explains Wenger's stubbornness and lack of transfer activity in the January window? Doesn't want to splash and pay over the odds when he knows he has a mammoth transfer pot in the summer? Who knows.""

Yes why go all out to win the league title this season when we are so close,when we can have a real go next year.Yawn.