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Sorry, i will never support Arsenal againOriginally Posted by Globalgunner
Wenger out!
There are some fairly logical reasons for thinking Wenger's taken us as far as he can and we should look elsewhere.
What annoys me is the hysteria.
Had we won on Saturday we'd be a point off the top of the table. I seriously doubt anyone would have been calling for Wenger's head then.
Fine, we lost, but that result shouldn't be the difference between Wengerand Wenger
I appreciate that one result is against a backdrop of 9 years of ups and downs and no trophies but at the start of the season, especially after the Villa game, the issue was could we stay in the top 4. No-one seriously expected a title challenge this year, that shouldn't be the criteria for success this year. IMO we've done very well to stay up there as long as we have. I am concerned about a massive collapse and if that happens then the progress we seemed to be making will disappear. Right now though we're 12 points ahead of where we were last year and we're in the FA Cup quarter final with a winnable home tie.
Concerns about the 'big games', squad depth and the ability to last a season remain and we can only really assess where we are in May.
Right now though no-one would sack their manager based on how we've done this year so far.
TheFine, we lost, but that result shouldn't be the difference between Wenger
Let's keep facts into perspective that this has happened time and again. Lets not pretend that supporters are angry just because we are 4 points off the leader. There is more to it... in fact almost a decade worth of similar failure for the pissed off fans.
Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..
Tbh.
And we haven't collapsed quite yet. The
So effectively a red card missed by the ref.
Of course, of course.
You have the answer right there in front of you, Letters. It all stems from the frustration of always getting close, but then finding some way to fuck up when the pressure is on.There are some fairly logical reasons for thinking Wenger's taken us as far as he can and we should look elsewhere.
What annoys me is the hysteria.
Had we won on Saturday we'd be a point off the top of the table. I seriously doubt anyone would have been calling for Wenger's head then.
Fine, we lost, but that result shouldn't be the difference between Wenger
I appreciate that one result is against a backdrop of 9 years of ups and downs and no trophies but at the start of the season, especially after the Villa game, the issue was could we stay in the top 4. No-one seriously expected a title challenge this year, that shouldn't be the criteria for success this year. IMO we've done very well to stay up there as long as we have. I am concerned about a massive collapse and if that happens then the progress we seemed to be making will disappear. Right now though we're 12 points ahead of where we were last year and we're in the FA Cup quarter final with a winnable home tie.
Concerns about the 'big games', squad depth and the ability to last a season remain and we can only really assess where we are in May.
Right now though no-one would sack their manager based on how we've done this year so far.
Patience has worn thin among the fanbase and, the fickle bastards we are, most won't hesitate to call for Wenger's head the minute we seemingly start faltering.
I think it is further compounded by the fact that we bottled it against relegation fodder. Even more frustrating considering that we knew we needed to keep pace by winning these easier set of fixtures leading up to the blitz of tougher opponents, if we wanted to be in with a shout towards the end.
We went out against the orcs and just never looked like winning. This is something which has been plaguing us for quite a while now and I think it's only fair that some fans see only one common denominator in all this.
I've wanted Wenger gone for some time now, but the respect, admiration and gratitude I developed for the man when he revolutionised our club, the BPL and club football in general, made it a bit easy for me to tentatively throw some support behind him when it looked like he was ready to challenge the big boys. But then, as the season progressed, that old feeling of deja vu slowly seeped in as the same cock ups began to recur.
I'd love for him to leave on his own terms, whenever he chooses to. Leave on a high, flaunting the league title in the face of his detractors, but sadly, I don't think he has it in him anymore. All belief has been dashed, as I think he's gotten us as far as he can.
All's not lost though, and when he walks, he will have made a great club greater, leaving them in the enviable position of being self made and standing on solid footing. Absolutely nothing for him to be ashamed of.
Mate you need to take you head out of the clouds, you blame everything but the people who should be blamed, this nonsense about refs has got to stop, yes City have had favourable decisions but so have we, the only reason you don't see them is bias.City have way more decisions for them, than against them this season, you cant deny that (and im not saying its corrupt refs, just super incompetent)
Wenger has done enough in his control to see us in 1st place, but a 3rd party he cant control, has slowly taken that away ever since the beginning of this season. So i cant follow the whole "Wenger out" train, because if it hadnt been for dodgy decisions, we would have been 1st.
If not for dodgy decisions: Arsenal 1st place, everyone loves Wenger.
A couple of dodgy decisions: Arsenal 4th place, everyone hates Wenger.
It just doesnt make sense to me
The refs aren't the reason we aren't top, the reason we're not top is because we haven't really turned up in big games and have begun to run out of steam come crunch time, together with some of the decisions made by our manager.
I'm sure you'll find one or two like you on every forum in the country, people who point to decisions and claim their team should be higher up than they are because of the refs, it just isn't true.
Tbh.
And we haven't collapsed quite yet. The
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
With regards the "No-one seriously expected a title challenge" line, I ask why? The reason is because in the last 8 years we haven't progressed like we should have and as Wenger had many times stated, we should be expected to challenge, we have massive resources, a stable club with a manager who has been there for years, we have everything you need to be successful, Ferguson managed it with Man U so why can't Wenger with us?There are some fairly logical reasons for thinking Wenger's taken us as far as he can and we should look elsewhere.
What annoys me is the hysteria.
Had we won on Saturday we'd be a point off the top of the table. I seriously doubt anyone would have been calling for Wenger's head then.
Fine, we lost, but that result shouldn't be the difference between Wenger
I appreciate that one result is against a backdrop of 9 years of ups and downs and no trophies but at the start of the season, especially after the Villa game, the issue was could we stay in the top 4. No-one seriously expected a title challenge this year, that shouldn't be the criteria for success this year. IMO we've done very well to stay up there as long as we have. I am concerned about a massive collapse and if that happens then the progress we seemed to be making will disappear. Right now though we're 12 points ahead of where we were last year and we're in the FA Cup quarter final with a winnable home tie.
Concerns about the 'big games', squad depth and the ability to last a season remain and we can only really assess where we are in May.
Right now though no-one would sack their manager based on how we've done this year so far.
For me the reason we're never genuinely seen as winners is nothing to do with money, it's to do with the obvious flaws in our manager's methods, at Christmas we were 7 points clear with a chance to go 10 points clear in the end we were outplayed by Everton at home and then proceeded to drop more points (at City and then against Chelsea), I'm sorry but we shouldn't have been tired at that stage of the season and given our position and form should have beaten them at home, at the time people claimed it was a good result, but it clearly wasn't. Then we had our 2nd hard run in February once again we came unstuck with 2 defeats and a draw (at home) again showing when it gets tough we seem to lack the resolve to get the results.
IMO part of the problem is our generally passive approach to game, rarely to we start with any kind of tempo, we let the opposition settle and against the better sides it's suicidal as once on top you're not going to get a 2nd chance. In addition to that, when things are going wrong, where is Wenger, from my observations he sits on the sidelines and does precious little as highlighted when Liverpool slaughtered us and he refused to make any kind of change to stem the flow.
It's not about the Stoke game and not really about this season, it's about seeing the same pattern unfold time and time again and watching a team who just don't seem to have the stomach for the fight, after almost 9 years you can only conclude that it's the manager that doesn't give them that fire, that doesn't inspire them and make them believe they can beat anyone, it's compounded by the fact he no longer signs players with true inspirational qualities that drive teammates to victory.
It's not been a bad season, there's been improvement in some areas, but for me there hasn't been improvement in the areas I wanted to see thus far.
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