match reaction v chelsea

[Power n Glory]

It is possible to criticise both wenger AND the players, y'know. It's kinda the manager who picks them, who trains them, who talks tactics with them, who gees them up before the game, isn't it?. And it's wenger who is the common denominator for the last 8 years of failure. I don't understand why you're so quick to defend him.

Yes, there is a kernel of quality in this squad, but I just don't see it realising its potential with wenger in a frontline managerial role. He clearly needs some help, and that means letting go and delegating a bit, as he did when dein was around.

It's the common denominator. Wenger is on the end of these beatings far too often and I can't accuse the players of not giving a fuck this season. It can't be that. We've rooted out all the players that wouldn't give us a 100%. All the players had a mare. The defence have been the difference for us this season until today and I can't really point fingers there and say we need to change personnel there. Ox and Cazorla were terrible and sloppy but you'd be a fool to say they should be off.

I think we got it tactically wrong. Ox isn't ready for midfield responsibility, Arteta doesn't have the legs to cover when we experiment like that and we played a suicidal backline.

It has to be nerves because the players all knew what was riding on this game and I they chocked. It's not as if we haven't seen other Wenger teams fall apart. Something went wrong (again) behind the scenes and we weren't ready for Chelsea.

[Master Splinter]

100% dive.

[Munchies]

Wenger not attending press conference, but told BBC: "This defeat is my fault, I take full responsibility for it."

[JonasTC]

Mate you can blame the players of course, but it is the manager who prepares them and sends them out.

Why was our midfield so unbalanced....why were Sagna and Gibbs playing like wingbacks without someone dropping deep to act as the fifth defender?

You only have to look at Utd this season to see how important the manager is....they went from champions to fighting for 5/6....i dont like Ferguson much but applaud his ability to motivate his team and have them battling.

We have had a raft of different players in the bigger games, and look at the results....there is only one common denominator and that is Wenger.

I still believe today, the players deserve to be bashed... It was 5-6 personal mistakes that lead to goals. Alot of people on here agree that if we had a proper striker we would be proper contenders this season, so it cant be Wengers tactics we can bash, then its down his ability in the transfer windows and i agree we can give him shit for that, but today i think we should blame the players for playing like a bunch of brainless chickens, not worthy of wearing our shirt.

[adzzzbatch]

Wenger not attending press conference, but told BBC: "This defeat is my fault, I take full responsibility for it."

Maybe he's busy writing his letter of resignation?

[fakeyank]

Maybe he's busy writing his letter of resignation?

[Munchies]

[Özim]

It is possible to criticise both wenger AND the players, y'know. It's kinda the manager who picks them, who trains them, who talks tactics with them, who gees them up before the game, isn't it?. And it's wenger who is the common denominator for the last 8 years of failure. I don't understand why you're so quick to defend him.

Yes, there is a kernel of quality in this squad, but I just don't see it realising its potential with wenger in a frontline managerial role. He clearly needs some help, and that means letting go and delegating a bit, as he did when dein was around.

The players have to take some blame, however ultimately it's Wengers responsibility, he's the one that brough them in/developed them and motivates them, if they can't do the job properly then he's the only one who can take the blame for getting it wrong by buying them or picking them.

He's the guy that prepares them, he's the guy that picks the team, he's the guy that motivates them, he's the guy that sets up the tactics, the whole club is about Wenger and therefore these regular beatings by top clubs and our inability to ever beat them has to be down to him.

Time and time again we fail to deliver in big games, I've seen smaller clubs beat some of these big boys and yet we seem unable to ever produce one winning performance against them, that to me says there's something wrong.

This season we're supposedly better than last and yet we've been humbled 3 times by the top clubs, conceding 5 once and 6 twice, yes you occasionally see freak results but 3 times in one season is a disgrace, we use to get a beating like this once ever 10 years now we get several a season!

[Letters]

I'm not sure there's any point drawing any conclusions from today's shambles.
If we finish top 4 (we will) and win the FA Cup (we'd bloody better do) then it'll have been a good season.
The title was never plausible this season.

The thumpings away against the other sides in the top 4 is a concern though.

[Maestro]

To all the Wenger Outerites, don't pop a blood vessel and no need to worry yourselves.

Wenger will leave of his own accord at the end of this season, so relax!