New manager

[Özim]

The thrashings we've had to endure in recent years I can't accept before he arrived (and even in the 1st half of his spell) this barely ever happened, the 6-1 against Man U was the only time I can remember with him in charge and before that 6-2 in the League Cup against Man U, other than that yes we lost games but not by these embarrassing margins.

This season it's happened 3 times in one season, it just shouldn't happen to a side of our stature with anywhere near that regularity, once every few years as a freak result fine but not like it does these days, it just makes us look like a joke.

[Maestro]

The thrashings we've had to endure in recent years I can't accept before he arrived (and even in the 1st half of his spell) this barely ever happened, the 6-1 against Man U was the only time I can remember with him in charge and before that 6-2 in the League Cup against Man U, other than that yes we lost games but not by these embarrassing margins.

This season it's happened 3 times in one season, it just shouldn't happen to a side of our stature with anywhere near that regularity, once every few years as a freak result fine but not like it does these days, it just makes us look like a joke.

who would you like to see come in should wenger leave, out of interest? narrow it down and no scattergun

[Özim]

who would you like to see come in should wenger leave, out of interest? narrow it down and no scattergun

Klopp, Simeone, Hitzfeld., Heynckes, Lippi, Del Bosque, Cruyff, Ancelotti, Strachan.

There's other around too I'm sure.

[JonasTC]

We cant really count the city result, if it hadnt been for a retarded ref, it would more had been like 6-3 for us and everybody would have loved Wenger... The Liverpool and Chelsea are freak results, most of the goals scored were 1% chance goals and they scored more than one of those... its 2 freakin' games, get over it. Barcelona lost 3-0 and 4-0 in a short period of time last year, that is as much a freak result as us losing 5-1/6-0 (Barca were considered the best team in the world at that time, so for them losing 7-0 over 2 games, is as much a freak result. Against a team we played 3-3 against over 2 games btw). It can happend to everybody, especially when you dont have 100m+ benches like your rivals and have a bunch of key players out.

But im curious, what do people expect of a new manager? A trophy and top1-3 each year? So far Wenger looks like he's going to win a trophy in his first year with the "new" Arsenal, even tho' im considering summer 2014 as a new start, thats when we're finally rid of all our shit players and the new sponsors kick in, that puts us up with the absolut top teams financial wise, i wont be surprised if we spend 100m this summer.

[Özim]

We cant really count the city result, if it hadnt been for a retarded ref, it would more had been like 6-3 for us and everybody would have loved Wenger... The Liverpool and Chelsea are freak results, most of the goals scored were 1% chance goals and they scored more than one of those... its 2 freakin' games, get over it.

3 freak results in one season, when we only use to see these kind of results once every 10 years?

City beat us and would have won regardless of the ref, we would never have won that game, as for the 1% chance thing, what kind of excuse is that? Wehn you lose 3 games lie we have 3 times in one season and can't be a top team for love nor money it's not due to freak occurrences, it's because there's something fundamentally wrong, even the smaller clubs put up better fights than we do against these teams.

[Munchies]

It's all because Wenger doesn't address the problems in the squad. After the Liverpool game, that should've been that. Look at all the teams near the bottom, none of them got beat this badly.

In the middle, there is no one there who is strong and has power in him to win the ball and drive forward. Think of Vieira, Yaya Toure in the same mould. There is simply far too much space in the team, and once other teams with a strong midfield (like Matic/Luiz) press on our weak one, our defence, no matter how good, will get overun.

On the left side, there is nothing there. Gibbs was dreadful, where was he for the first 2 goals? He doesn't know when to attack or when to defend. In front of him, we usually have Cazorla, but he's pretty much weak on the ball, has no real pace, and isn't a winger to push teams back. Podolski played the other day, and he doesn't do much at all, he doesn't run in behind, and doesn't track back.

Up front, Giroud, far too slow and predictable to play against, which gives defenders freedom to push up high to invite further pressure on our fragile midfield.

Heck, we should've gone for Kallstrom/Flamini the other day, wouldn't have been far better as much of a shambles as Ox/Arteta was. I mean Ox/Arteta against Matic and Luiz ?

[Globalgunner]

People say its a freak result. Conveniently forgetting that we hardly ever beat these teams , except Liverpool who have climbed above us definitively this year. Even the catastrophic United, who are in dire straits. Get results against us. Even clubs like Spuds, West ham, Sunderland,have got wins against against them , but us?. best we can manage is 2 stultifying draws. We are definitely the ones for the big occasion. Big game, big collapse.

[JonasTC]

3 freak results in one season, when we only use to see these kind of results once every 10 years?

City beat us and would have won regardless of the ref, we would never have won that game, as for the 1% chance thing, what kind of excuse is that? Wehn you lose 3 games lie we have 3 times in one season and can't be a top team for love nor money it's not due to freak occurrences, it's because there's something fundamentally wrong, even the smaller clubs put up better fights than we do against these teams.

With that logic, we must be better than Barcelona, because we drawed vs Bayern in the CHL and they mauled Barcelona... Must be something fundamentally wrong with Barca then? They never lose and ended up losing 7-0 to Bayern... :s

Lets just agree to disagree, i support Wenger, you dont. EOD.

[Munchies]

With that logic, we must be better than Barcelona, because we drawed vs Bayern in the CHL and they mauled Barcelona... Must be something fundamentally wrong with Barca then? They never lose and ended up losing 7-0 to Bayern... :s

Lets just agree to disagree, i support Wenger, you dont. EOD.

I don't see how you jump to that from his post

He's spot on.

And by the way, that 7-0 was over 2 games.

[JonasTC]

I don't see how you jump to that from his post

He's spot on.

And by the way, that 7-0 was over 2 games.

That is because you choose not too read my entire post, he responded too... Seem to happend alot on here