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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Rewatch the goals and how he struggles to stay with his runners. I think the 4th goal was the clearest example. It's not made up and your delusional if you think he's a quick player.
    You said he doesn't have legs - in the terminology of the game that means he can't stand the pace and can't cover the ground. It has nothing to do with being quick - you just changed the whole angle of the criticism by bringing pace into it. He's not the quickest, neither is he the slowest on the team. But in terms of having legs, he's the best in the squad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    You said he doesn't have legs - in the terminology of the game that means he can't stand the pace and can't cover the ground. It has nothing to do with being quick - you just changed the whole angle of the criticism by bringing pace into it. He's not the quickest, neither is he the slowest on the team. But in terms of having legs, he's the best in the squad.
    Sort yourself out. That's not even worth the effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Sort yourself out. That's not even worth the effort.
    Simple response when you don't have anything else. Having the legs is about endurance, not speed. We both know and maybe you were originally referring to speed or quickness but that's not what you said. You said he didn't have legs which is obviously not the case. He routinely covers the most ground of any squad member and usually any opponent. So he does have legs, good ones. And he's also our most efficient and accurate passer of the ball. The idea he's a shit player is self evidently ludicrous and anyone who tries to push that argument is equally ludicrous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    You said he doesn't have legs - in the terminology of the game that means he can't stand the pace and can't cover the ground. It has nothing to do with being quick - you just changed the whole angle of the criticism by bringing pace into it. He's not the quickest, neither is he the slowest on the team. But in terms of having legs, he's the best in the squad.
    Bloody Hell do you hear yourself. Being quick and pace afre not the same thing? Now YOU are just making up stuff. He doesnt have legs means he cant keep up a high tempo for a long time in a game. Not able to repeatedly chase runners, Not able to make up ground. Yours really is a sad case of 1 upmanship. You simply cant lose an argument. Stop trying to browbeat people into submission and watch the bloody game. Arteta cant chase after anybody. Not without holding on for dear life. He is 32 going on 33 and he was never quick. T Rosicky on the other hand is the same age but has more pace.

    He may be technically better than Flamini but not at the things a DM needs to do which is intercept passes, chase attackers and hold off other midfielders.

    Next thing you'll be telling us that Usain Bolt is fast but hes not quick
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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    Bloody Hell do you hear yourself. Being quick and pace afre not the same thing? Now YOU are just making up stuff. He doesnt have legs means he cant keep up a high tempo for a long time in a game. Not able to repeatedly chase runners, Not able to make up ground. Yours really is a sad case of 1 upmanship. You simply cant lose an argument. Stop trying to browbeat people into submission and watch the bloody game. Arteta cant chase after anybody. Not without holding on for dear life. He is 32 going on 33 and he was never quick. T Rosicky on the other hand is the same age but has more pace.

    He may be technically better than Flamini but not at the things a DM needs to do which is intercept passes, chase attackers and hold off other midfielders.

    Next thing you'll be telling us that Usain Bolt is fast but hes not quick
    Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    Bloody Hell do you hear yourself. Being quick and pace afre not the same thing? Now YOU are just making up stuff. He doesnt have legs means he cant keep up a high tempo for a long time in a game. Not able to repeatedly chase runners, Not able to make up ground. Yours really is a sad case of 1 upmanship. You simply cant lose an argument. Stop trying to browbeat people into submission and watch the bloody game. Arteta cant chase after anybody. Not without holding on for dear life. He is 32 going on 33 and he was never quick. T Rosicky on the other hand is the same age but has more pace.

    He may be technically better than Flamini but not at the things a DM needs to do which is intercept passes, chase attackers and hold off other midfielders.

    Next thing you'll be telling us that Usain Bolt is fast but hes not quick
    And you're a wanker riding on the coattails of PnG, pissed because some posters here won't throw their rattles and it has started to make you look like an arse. Oneupmanship? You mean in the race to call your own manager everything under the sun? I wouldn't dream of trying to compete with you in that particular competition, you win. But funnily enough, yes, "...have legs means he cant keep up a high tempo for a long time in a game. Not able to repeatedly chase runners, Not able to make up ground." That's what I said, PnG is talking about him not being quick. Entirely different things and without being able to figure it for yourself you're agreeing with me on the definitions. Obviously not in terms of how they are applied to Arteta because to say he can't keep up with the tempo of the game or repeatedly chase runners in pure bollocks. Now whether he catches the runners he's chasing - different matter entirely. Bottom line - learn to read.
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    Another tennis score defeat. Good work lads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost... View Post
    Another tennis score defeat. Good work lads.
    Should have known what was going to happen when you scarpered off to a wedding. You could have warned us so we could have gone shopping with the missus rather than watch that shit. Some of us had offers for Waitrose, Morrisons, Poundstretcher - all spurned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Should have known what was going to happen when you scarpered off to a wedding. You could have warned us so we could have gone shopping with the missus rather than watch that shit. Some of us had offers for Waitrose, Morrisons, Poundstretcher - all spurned.
    I went to Londis. Very good too.

    Rors kept me updated on the game but thankfully the wedding had concluded by then so I was not shouting oh fuck off when any objections had been asked.

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    One thing i noticed in the game was...and it was crucial.

    It was that Arteta just didnt have the legs

    In all seriousness, I cannot, but more significantly will not support Arteta's involvement in the starting line up againt top 5 opposition. I dont think it can be denied that he needs replacing, he's too old, He never was a DM in the first place, so his limitations in this position are the managers doing.

    Overall, Wenger is known for forcing square pegs into round holes, this has not changed. We have Ox playing in midfield centrally. Ok, this is acceptable against the lower teams but against the likes of chelsea and their manager it's just not tactically smart and Wenger knows it.

    We need to win the FA Cup, Im just worried that the team will bottle that too.

    Wenger said before the game that it was the most important game of the season.....we're 2 nil down after 8 minutes.

    WTF does he say to these players???

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