match reaction v citeh

[Özim]

No Zimster, I'm right. And there's no way anybody could be so pro Maureen unless it was a wind up.

I'm not pro Mourinho, I just rate him as a manager, he doesn't beat around the bush and addresses issues with his teams, as a manager I respect him because he gets results and delivers.

In my eyes we have a manager who just doesn't do that, maybe that's why seeing a manager that does is so frustrating, I'm seeing what we could be under a different manager.

He does and says some stupid things sometimes, but I prefer to look at his management record, if we had a manager that delivered I wouldn't care what he came out with, it wouldn't matter.

[Niall_Quinn]

The little horse thing you did was class, I laughed.

[Özim]

Sometimes I like to be funny!

Poor result for them yesterday no question about it, I expect them to be a lot stronger next season though and in that sense it's a real missed opportunity for us.

Incidentally, I respect Rodgers too, he's changing things and moving Liverpool forward which is all any fan wants to see.

Never rated Moyes at Everton for precisely the same reason I have issues with Wenger, he never ever seemed to progress.

[1_nilto the arsenal]

It just proved that the quality of our players are no match for Liverpool, Man City and Chelsea. We've stagnated and our managers directors and and players have no ambition as each season they only see 4th place as the holy grail. That sums us up, we are the specilists in finishing 4th and even our manager portrays it as a equal to winning a trophy. I only wish the champions league went back to the old system with only champions participating. I wonder what might have been had we had to finish 1st to play in the European Cup?

[Bumble]

Zim and NQ are very similar people both give the same response for each game regardless of result. One goes on about how we deserved to win every game and it the cheating refs, media fault etc that we don't win 38 out of 38. The other won't give credit for a good performance because the previous performance wasn't good. Very tedious.

Draw was fair result, they had more possession, shots and shots on goal but we had a high tempo second half without really testing the keeper.

If Everton win today then next week's game is huge, we can't afford to lose. The fourth place trophy is within touching distance.

[Niall_Quinn]

Nicely said. It's true, I'm a fan and therefore 100% biased in favour of my club but only because it's not possible to be 101% in favour. Never aspired to be a "let's be reasonable" spectator decked out in merchandising. Reason is for science, not sport. This is why the rise of the sandwich munchers has been bad for the game.

[Özim]

Maybe but my reasoning is I don't think we're that good a team.

Palace beat Chelsea yesterday I would assume it's because Chelsea weren't at the races seeing as Chelsea are better than Palace.

Likewise with us, Man City are a better team than us, we don't give credit to other smaller teams when they beat us, we look at our side and complain they've been poor.

Wasn't one of our best performances yesterday either, we did OK but we've played better.

[Letters]

It was a decent display though I'm not taking too much from this in terms of where we are.

[Letters]

Zim and NQ are very similar people both give the same response for each game regardless of result. One goes on about how we deserved to win every game and it the cheating refs, media fault etc that we don't win 38 out of 38. The other won't give credit for a good performance because the previous performance wasn't good. Very tedious.

At least NQ is actually an Arsenal fan though and gets behind the team and manager. Personally I try to be realistic about things but I'd rather listen to someone who clearly supports the club than someone who constantly attacks us when we do poorly and belittles or dismisses when we do well.

[Özim]

At least NQ is actually an Arsenal fan though and gets behind the team and manager. Personally I try to be realistic about things but I'd rather listen to someone who clearly supports the club than someone who constantly attacks us when we do poorly and belittles or dismisses when we do well.

Yeah so am I, seems to me that unless you're praising the manager and team you're not, how tedious.

Personally I prefer to listen to someone who is realistic and after 9 years see's pears as pears and apples as apples, don't have a problem with NQ though, however underhand digs like you've just made irritate me.