4th or Cup

[LDG]

Talking to yourself

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Talking to yourself

Well I prefer to think of it as thinking out loud, if I was talking to myself there would be an internal debate going on, or maybe I'm just saying that to convince myself I'm not going mad.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

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[McNamara That Ghost...]

FA Cup. Mainly because we have to rely on other results to get fourth now.

[Alpha]

Both

[Globalgunner]

Thing is, the FA cup is altogether winnable now. Not to win against Hull would be a nightmare even greater than our defeat to Birmingham because we realistically should beat them 9 times out of 10. However when you stand back and analyse our predicament we really cannot afford to drop out of CL. Pool will use the CL to reinforce and will be strong candidates next season whether they win the PL this season or not. You can see that Henry is a sports lover and will throw more money at them. They have a good manager they will be better. United wont stand still, they will spend whatever it takes to get back on top and will surely have a back up plan for a new manager by Xmas if Moyes looks like being a dud again. That leaves us......you know who our manager is and who our management are.

Wenger will say...."I believe in this group of players. They have the right spirit, determination and quality to challenge for the title next year. Yes not playing in the CL is a setback but we can win the Europa and show that we are still a force in Europe......" He wont buy anyone..or the players wont come...next season we will be 6th or 7th. In fact the absolute worst scenario is Everton coming 4th. They will also try their best to upgrade and Martinez will find more quality loanees that Wenger will never do. We could end up 8th behind the Spuds.....We wont be back in the CL for at least 6 years. HCZ will then say we cant compete against Everton and Tottenham`s riches.

How on earth did it get to this?. I cant believe you guys are saying you'd rather host the likes of Sevilla, Trabsonspor and Grasshoppers than the likes of Barca Madrid, Bayern. That music, those check decals on the stadium. You guys are just being emotional.....Come back to earth please. The FA cup is great but really. This is a cup we won so often, they were about giving it to us for keeps. We should be winning that thing every 3 years at least.....Why arent we...the same reason we are having this poll. We have gone from being kings to run of the mill Dukes and Earls

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Then again you can only imagine what Liverpool fans will be feeling if they don't go on and win the title.

They will be fishing people out of the Mersey for weeks

Weeks?

Decades.

[Power n Glory]

Both shouldn't be beyond us. But I actually think Champs League is more important for us for this season. I don't want any excuses about spending money next year or finding it difficult to attract players. We'd lose out on the home game gate revenue, along with the TV money.

I want us to be in the best position to attract players and a new coach for next year. Winning the final but coming 5th will still feel like a poor season. I think we need to start thinking long term if it's beyond this team to do both. It's really depressing.

[Özim]

Couldn't give a toss about 4th to be honest, CL bores me sh*tless are we have no chance of ever getting anywhere in it.

Cup for me.

Be nice to win it in style as well rather than with a borefest.

[Özim]

Dont really care about 4th or Champions league, if all we are going to do is qualify for the second round and get knocked out the moment we play a team with 11 football players. We have got 4th every season for almost a decade (peppered with 3rd) and it has provided me ZERO happiness.

I think winning a trophy will be a great springboard for us to go onto better things. FA Cup any day for me. In fact, I'd prefer the Carling cup over 4th place trophy.

Totally agree, with a different manager I'd probably enjoy the CL more due to the increased unpredictability, with Wenger in charge I get zero enjoyment, someone may as well say he's the money for qualifying for the last 16 don't bother playing.

It has to be said that Wenger has been exposed in Europe, so many years in Europe with several clubs and he's not even managed to fluke a win in any competition, basically in Europe he doesn't have what it takes to succeed.

I can remember when Man U were chasing the CL after not winning it, it was hard but they kept knocking on the door and eventually they got there, get to the end of the path and fall through the trapdoor everytime we get there.

Wenger hails qualifying for the CL for x amount of years, but I wonder if there's any manager with a worse record in Europe than him in terms of performance over such a long period.