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    btw - season has been a success, only 7 points off the leaders despite being cheated out of several results by biased officials (they tried to cheat us out of the cup today too), CL spot secured, FA Cup, outstanding season from Ramsey despite the injury, great CB pairing, did it all without Walcott and Ox (our pace) for much of the season. The only reason there are negatives is because we performed a lot better than expected and then the increased expectations were used as a yardstick. But we're certainly heading in the right direction. More improvement next season and we are right in the hunt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    btw - season has been a success, only 7 points off the leaders despite being cheated out of several results by biased officials (they tried to cheat us out of the cup today too), CL spot secured, FA Cup, outstanding season from Ramsey despite the injury, great CB pairing, did it all without Walcott and Ox (our pace) for much of the season. The only reason there are negatives is because we performed a lot better than expected and then the increased expectations were used as a yardstick. But we're certainly heading in the right direction. More improvement next season and we are right in the hunt.
    you still going on about the City game!!! they could have scored 20 that day if they tried.

    anyway 7 points off and a cup win is a massive improvement on last season but the CL was still a huge disappointment. It was quite fitting that Koscielny and Ramsey got the key goals yesterday as they have been our best players this season. Szczesny should have played yesterday as Fabianski is off in the summer and he is 2nd choice keeper so who cares. Sagna is different he is first choice right back.

    If we don't make the right signings though I think next season wont be better than this season. Chelsea are already signing a new striker, City just need a proper defender alongside Kompany, Liverpool need to get more depth but with CL money could happen and United just need about 10 players to become competitive but will have a new manager.

    We are already losing Sagna, Fab and probably Vermalaen and all 3 will need to be replaced before we can even improve the squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumble View Post
    anyway 7 points off and a cup win is a massive improvement on last season but the CL was still a huge disappointment.
    Was it? We got through a difficult group which some didn't expect us to progress from, we were holding our own against Bayern till the (ridiculous, frankly) sending off. Once that had happened the die was cast. I'm not suggesting we'd have beaten them over 2 legs otherwise but we were playing pretty well and it would have been close IMO. We hardly dropped out of an easy group or went out to some pub team.

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    I have three criticisms:
    1. We didn't seem to create so many chances or score so many goals as years gone by (not sure if that's actually true or not, but that's what it felt like).
    2. Sanogo as the only striker to bring off the bench in an FA Cup final is pretty crap. Imagine if that had been Higuain or Suarez.
    3. There's not enough pace in the side.

    Having said that, I feel in all other respects we made progress: more points, more consistency, and, of course, the cup!
    Very happy all in all, and I think we can make progress next season, too.

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    We played 56 games this season, and I think I'd say that Four of those games were what I'd call disgraceful performances. Four is four too many, but it doesnt really equate with the car wreck of a season that we've had accordingly to the short term ist sensationalist reactionary print and tv media.
    Good season? Yes Great Season? Given the broad context of how long we've gone without a trophy I'd argue yes

    Disappointing season? In many respects also yes....we are left wondering what might have been. And things need to improve, and not just in squad strengthening our match preparation mentally for big games is clearly non existant. And we can get in as much top talent as we want, if we don't sort this out we are going to miss out on bigger things.

    We have improved in many respects, but this has to be only the beginning.

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    This is a very hard question to answer, we won a trophy, but there wasn't much improvement, we've stayed the same.

    Our midfield play has been spotty and inconsistent, Ramsey for all his goal scoring, his overall play is still spotty. Wilshere had moments, not very consistent, Arteta and Flams, meh. Defense improved a bit, particularly on set pieces and long balls. But the attack really regressed, not too much fluidity or creativity, every game featured large spells were they couldn't muster a single attempt on goal.

    Still a lot of work to do if this club has any thoughts off challenging the big boys in Europe and in England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobson's choice View Post
    This is a very hard question to answer, we won a trophy, but there wasn't much improvement, we've stayed the same.

    Our midfield play has been spotty and inconsistent, Ramsey for all his goal scoring, his overall play is still spotty. Wilshere had moments, not very consistent, Arteta and Flams, meh. Defense improved a bit, particularly on set pieces and long balls. But the attack really regressed, not too much fluidity or creativity, every game featured large spells were they couldn't muster a single attempt on goal.

    Still a lot of work to do if this club has any thoughts off challenging the big boys in Europe and in England.


    Very well put. I am hoping against hope that the taste of success transforms the lads and the manager. Wenger IMO has to take the initiative this window to strengthen the squad and also set proper tactics. My biggest gripe against Wenger has been his lack of tactics and utilization of players. I really hope that we see a huge difference in what he has done for 8 years and what we see next season.
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobson's choice View Post
    This is a very hard question to answer, we won a trophy, but there wasn't much improvement, we've stayed the same.
    Don't agree with that at all. We've got the most points for about 4 years for one thing. The last 2 years we just about scraped into the top 4, this year we were actually in the title race with 7 games to go. Other years we've been accused of 'bottling it' in high pressure situations but we've had plenty of high pressure games this year and while we've not won all of them we battled through well against Wigan when we were on a terrible run (yes, we should be beating Wigan but so should City and they lost to them twice in a year in the Cup) and if being 2-0 down after 7 minutes in a Cup Final isn't high pressure then I don't know what is.

    There is work to do, clearly, but I can't agree there has been no improvement.

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    If you would have offered me top 4 and the FA Cup at the start of the season I would have bitten your hand off. It's been a good season in the fact that we have ended our 9 year wait for a trophy but we still have plenty of work to do to progress as a football team.

    Our league form in 2014 has been very disappointing as has our lack of desire to sufficiently improve the squad.

    There has been progress but not enough for me to be content with the way we are heading. This summer is really crucial and Wenger has to get it right. We have the basis of a very good team but we desperately need additions in Attack and Central Midfield, we also need to replace Fabianski and Sagna if we want to push on and build on this success. Essentially we are looking at signing 3 starting players for the first XI, that's quite a big ask for Wenger but if we want to push on then he is going to have to do it IMHO.

    We have absolutely no excuses not to strengthen the squad, the money is there so let's go out and spend it and bridge the gap between top 4 and potential winners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    btw - season has been a success, only 7 points off the leaders despite being cheated out of several results by biased officials (they tried to cheat us out of the cup today too), CL spot secured, FA Cup, outstanding season from Ramsey despite the injury, great CB pairing, did it all without Walcott and Ox (our pace) for much of the season. The only reason there are negatives is because we performed a lot better than expected and then the increased expectations were used as a yardstick. But we're certainly heading in the right direction. More improvement next season and we are right in the hunt.
    True, if we hadn't been cheated so many times we'd have won the title by at least 36 points, everyone hates us and wants to cheat us out of trophies

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