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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon View Post
    We'd go out and thrash teams 6-0 in the cups, what the fuck you on about

    Now we barely scrape past them.

    Ozil hardly has a lavish team right now. No Walcott, no pace, no width, central midfielders out on the wing, no attacking full backs to aim for. Project youth might have been a failure but at least central midfielders had options and players in different angles to pass the ball to. Technically it was a brilliant team but mentally it was all wrong. This team is the opposite. It's mentally tougher but technically piss poor IMO, our football is pretty crap and dull to watch. Ozil has fuck all options. If he was an AM in the project youth team he'd have a field day with all those runners and options. And more importantly, Cesc had a beastly Adebayor ahead of him, Ozil has Giroud.

    As I said, no contest tbh.
    You don’t remember when Wenger benched Arshavin for an FA Cup semi final tie? I think that was when we started getting the 4th is a trophy comments and before that pundits were on us for fielding weaker sides in cup games.

    It doesn’t matter anyway. You say no contest but all three players have won the exact same thing in their Arsenal careers. It’s a pretty pointless debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    You don’t remember when Wenger benched Arshavin for an FA Cup semi final tie? I think that was when we started getting the 4th is a trophy comments and before that pundits were on us for fielding weaker sides in cup games.

    It doesn’t matter anyway. You say no contest but all three players have won the exact same thing in their Arsenal careers. It’s a pretty pointless debate.
    I remember that but I also remember a technically brilliant team that flourished with their passing range and ability. That 07/08 team was a beast. This team is nowhere near that standard technically. In other words, Cesc was in the technically superior team and still helped us win fuck all. Ozil and Ramsey are in a worse team yet ended our trophy drought.

    No. Contest.

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    Are you suggesting that Pogba is worth 60 million to us NQ?...or do you mean our net outlay this summer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice View Post
    Are you suggesting that Pogba is worth 60 million to us NQ?...or do you mean our net outlay this summer?
    60mill is what he's going to cost. He'd be worth a lot more to us than that though. First player I have seen that can properly impersonate Paddy. Big, powerful, but a genuine ball player who can attack as well as he defends. And still developing. That's how much a Vieira will cost you these days. Our net outlay will hopefully be the full £100mill we have on hand. It won't be, which is why hope is such an awful thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    60mill is what he's going to cost. He'd be worth a lot more to us than that though. First player I have seen that can properly impersonate Paddy. Big, powerful, but a genuine ball player who can attack as well as he defends. And still developing. That's how much a Vieira will cost you these days. Our net outlay will hopefully be the full £100mill we have on hand. It won't be, which is why hope is such an awful thing.


    Yep I really like him too, looks the REAL DEAL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    60mill is what he's going to cost. He'd be worth a lot more to us than that though. First player I have seen that can properly impersonate Paddy. Big, powerful, but a genuine ball player who can attack as well as he defends. And still developing. That's how much a Vieira will cost you these days. Our net outlay will hopefully be the full £100mill we have on hand. It won't be, which is why hope is such an awful thing.
    yup im right there with ya - funny thing is that he IS available. Juve have said a couple times over the last year that if the right bid came in for him, they are willing to depart. this is exactly the type of player we need as you mentioned earlier we have been missing for the last decade.

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    Yes you are right Mr Lahey, they have said that and Juve won't hold out for as much as 60 million. They are resigned to the fact they will lose him in the not too distant future imo.

    They could win their league even if they replaced Pogba with Joey Barton. I don't think Pogba is worth 60 million or that he is near to Vieira's class, but he could get there, who knows.....

    I actually think with the emergence of Ramsey, a simple burly sit and hold / anchorman, distribute the ball nicely, will do. Someone like a Gilberto, who I would say Gustavo is closest to or someone like Mavuba. Plenty of others out there though. Our approach to the big games needs to be honed too, lest we be losing by big margins in big games as a matter of course.

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