Transfer News, Rumours and Bollocks Thread

[The Wengerbabies]

Tottenham has signed Aston Villa and former United States International goalkeeper Brad Friedel
http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/1614/...nited-states-?

Nooooooooooo


Always liked Friedel

[Niall_Quinn]

Good to see you've come around at last. Go see vpgreg for the official welcome pack

In all seriousness, another signing similar to Koscielny would be welcome, different type of CB but same level of performance would be awesome.

We all have opinions and that's a good thing. But our opinions don't change the evidence. This guy probably did more to induce the latest annual end of season collapse than any other player. When he was called to perform, at that key moment he failed catastrophically. These moments count. Like Bendtner's miss that would have made all the Barca hoopla this week never happen because we would have knocked them out. What would a quality defender have given us in that one moment against Birmingham? What would a quality striker have delivered in that one moment against Barca? It's all fine margins and when you have the best you can tip those margins in your favour. When you have second rate players like Koscielny and Bendtner then you end up on the losing side of the equation. Just as we have year after year after year. Unsurprisingly, when we had quality players the outcome was reversed - we won. So no, I'd rather not see another Koscielny in the team. I don't see what that would give us other than more of what we have become used to. Absolute failure. I would rather we spent the money and bought a decent defender, in the same way Utd, Chelsea do. You can see their results too and examine their trophy cabinets. Even City have a trophy stashed away now. Nothing for us thought because we buy sub-standard and so we get sub-standard performance. What I'm saying is not an opinion, it's just a summary of the evidence.

[Ironing]

We all have opinions and that's a good thing. But our opinions don't change the evidence. This guy probably did more to induce the latest annual end of season collapse than any other player. When he was called to perform, at that key moment he failed catastrophically. These moments count. Like Bendtner's miss that would have made all the Barca hoopla this week never happen because we would have knocked them out. What would a quality defender have given us in that one moment against Birmingham? What would a quality striker have delivered in that one moment against Barca? It's all fine margins and when you have the best you can tip those margins in your favour. When you have second rate players like Koscielny and Bendtner then you end up on the losing side of the equation. Just as we have year after year after year. Unsurprisingly, when we had quality players the outcome was reversed - we won. So no, I'd rather not see another Koscielny in the team. I don't see what that would give us other than more of what we have become used to. Absolute failure. I would rather we spent the money and bought a decent defender, in the same way Utd, Chelsea do. You can see their results too and examine their trophy cabinets. Even City have a trophy stashed away now. Nothing for us thought because we buy sub-standard and so we get sub-standard performance. What I'm saying is not an opinion, it's just a summary of the evidence.

[Darth Vela]

We all have opinions and that's a good thing. But our opinions don't change the evidence. This guy probably did more to induce the latest annual end of season collapse than any other player. When he was called to perform, at that key moment he failed catastrophically. These moments count. Like Bendtner's miss that would have made all the Barca hoopla this week never happen because we would have knocked them out. What would a quality defender have given us in that one moment against Birmingham? What would a quality striker have delivered in that one moment against Barca? It's all fine margins and when you have the best you can tip those margins in your favour. When you have second rate players like Koscielny and Bendtner then you end up on the losing side of the equation. Just as we have year after year after year. Unsurprisingly, when we had quality players the outcome was reversed - we won. So no, I'd rather not see another Koscielny in the team. I don't see what that would give us other than more of what we have become used to. Absolute failure. I would rather we spent the money and bought a decent defender, in the same way Utd, Chelsea do. You can see their results too and examine their trophy cabinets. Even City have a trophy stashed away now. Nothing for us thought because we buy sub-standard and so we get sub-standard performance. What I'm saying is not an opinion, it's just a summary of the evidence.

So, one miscommunication at the back and that nullifies all the good work he did? I agree that it's fine margins and in that case he made a difference in the worst possible way but look at the number of times Vidic has given away stupid fouls in significant areas, one of the best defenders in the Prem making mistakes that could make a difference in the end. The reason they didn't matter? The rest of the team was able to cancel them out by scoring the goals/defending the corners/not sending off Neville, we didn't do that and that's a bigger issue, the big issue in fact imo.

And what you're saying is an opinion, the evidence is that he has made mistakes, that proves the grand theory that he is in fact, human.

[Özim]

So, one miscommunication at the back and that nullifies all the good work he did? I agree that it's fine margins and in that case he made a difference in the worst possible way but look at the number of times Vidic has given away stupid fouls in significant areas, one of the best defenders in the Prem making mistakes that could make a difference in the end. The reason they didn't matter? The rest of the team was able to cancel them out by scoring the goals/defending the corners/not sending off Neville, we didn't do that and that's a bigger issue, the big issue in fact imo.

And what you're saying is an opinion, the evidence is that he has made mistakes, that proves the grand theory that he is in fact, human.

One miscommunication, are you kidding?

He's been repeatedly at fault in many key games and to be honest doing OK in a few games doesn't make up for that. The better defenders don't lose concentration as often as he does, nor do they cost their teams goals as much as he does.

His contribution this season is vastly overrated by some IMO, it's been a very average season by a very average defender.

At best he's a 4th choice defender.

[Niall_Quinn]

So, one miscommunication at the back and that nullifies all the good work he did? I agree that it's fine margins and in that case he made a difference in the worst possible way but look at the number of times Vidic has given away stupid fouls in significant areas, one of the best defenders in the Prem making mistakes that could make a difference in the end. The reason they didn't matter? The rest of the team was able to cancel them out by scoring the goals/defending the corners/not sending off Neville, we didn't do that and that's a bigger issue, the big issue in fact imo.

And what you're saying is an opinion, the evidence is that he has made mistakes, that proves the grand theory that he is in fact, human.

Yes, human error is often the cause of train wrecks and plane crashes. If Kos and Vidic were pilots, which plane would you get on? Let's get real, haven't we made enough excuses for our players now? Isn't it time to take off the rose coloured tints and have a look at the Arsenal team from top to bottom and view things realistically in the context of the results and performances this team has achieved (or failed to achieve)? We've paid a heavy price for carrying players like Bendtner for so long. I hope we don't have to pay it again with players like Koscielny and Chamakh. But I think we will unless somebody in authority wises up fast. And look at the other misfit Squillaci, and Silvestre, Cygan and Stepanovs before him. Add them all up, the wages, the wasted points and lost trophies. Have this lot really been cheaper than buying a proper defender? I think they've been bloody expensive and if you look at Koscielny's record so far, how much has he cost us? Too much I would say. How much will he pay back? Too little. Certainly in my opinion, based on the evidence so far and taking into account Wenger's scandalous track record when it comes to the defence.

[Sirjackofwilshere]

DarrenArsenal1 Darren



So Arsene on way to South America revealed on French Radio...come back with Neymar and that would be a nice present

DarrenArsenal1 Darren



Probably more likely to be Ganso or Alvarez ... But live in hope for Neymar, but I'm sure £10m won't cut it LOL

[Cripps_orig]

Barcelona's opening offer for Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas this summer is £30m. Arsenal want £50m and may stand a better chance of getting it from Manchester City.
Full story: Daily Mirror

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[AKBapologist]

Not on holiday after all...

Wenger was on french radio RTL interviewed by Lizarazu

Wenger - We couldn't cope with pressure defensively in the second part of the season. It's been the most frustrating season.

AW - We didn't manage to kill the games, and it's down to maturity.

AW - We'll invest in players who can bring something more to the team, and that won't be easy

AW - We'll invest in defense because it's been our weakness ...

AW - Defensive players based in Premier League, because we've dropped points in place where it's typical english football

AW - This year, there's no interest for Cesc. So I want to keep him because he's the best midfielder in the world and he's our captain.

AW - What is certain is we won't sell Nasri to Man utd

AW - With Nasri there's a little disagreement on the financial terms of his new contract.

AW - I wont go on holiday, I'll go soon in South America to watch [players]

AW - the target is to keep our qualities, strengthen them and get rid of our weaknesses. We still have to improve offensively.

Things are looking ominous for nasri.

[Niall_Quinn]

Barcelona have already agreed a £35million deal to sign Villarreal’s former Manchester United striker Giuseppe Rossi and Guardiola is determined to get Fabregas.

So they'll pay £35mill for Rossi but want Fabregas for £30mill? £50mill is an insult, £70mill must be the starting point if they value Rossi at £35mill. I suspect we'll beat them down to £25mill.