Sami Khedira

[Niall_Quinn]

Well if the reports are to be believed we've cooled our interest in Schneiderlin because Southampton want 20mill + for him. To be fair to Southampton they are well within their rights to demand big money for him, they have already milked Man United & Liverpool for 2 of their talents.

Whoever we buy is going to cost a fair bit, If it isn't Khedira or Schneiderlin then it's going to be Lars Bender and he won't come cheap.

Apparently we've gone back with further enquiries about Schneiderlin - hopefully just to fuck up the spuds bid.

[AFC Leveller]

Said we should have signed Scheweinsteiger three years ago, and two years ago, and last year and I say it again this year. Shame though because the years are ticking on. Even so, the guy remain the best at what he does. We'd still get 3-4 years out of him, enough time to put our Pogba bid together. But the dedicated DCM thing is a bit of a red herring in terms of Arsenal. Vieira was the best we ever had, but he wasn't a DCM in the true sense. If we could find a carbon copy nobody would have any problems with sticking him in the team with Ramsey. Adding all the other reasons I mentioned in an earlier post, Khedira is the right move and I hope we pull it off. But I've seen the same reports, apparently his demands are a bit silly. Some say imminent, it looks to be more like 50/50. But that's a huge improvement on the 100% no chance made up fantasy bullshit we've seen in prior seasons.

Vieira played alongside a DCM (Edu/Gilberto/Grimandi) and was the more atacking of the two anyway. the fact that he could defend and win the midfield battle was key but he was never the DCM in the side. When he played alongside Cesc in his final season, i remember we looked unbalanced and conceded goals through the middle due to the absence of a dedicated DCM.

[Niall_Quinn]

Vieira played alongside a DCM (Edu/Gilberto/Grimandi) and was the more atacking of the two anyway. the fact that he could defend and win the midfield battle was key but he was never the DCM in the side. When he played alongside Cesc in his final season, i remember we looked unbalanced and conceded goals through the middle due to the absence of a dedicated DCM.

Of course he had support, Petit being the best example, but we never played so rigidly as to tie any single player down to x yards from the edge of the box. It sounds to me like Khedira may end up a signing too far anyway, but I'd much rather us be heading in the Vieira/ Petit direction than this modern bullshit football that sets out to ruin the game as the primary objective. But I've always preferred to see great football even if we lose, than see anti-football and win though not everyone has the same view. My least favourite Arsenal game was the 2005 cup final win. It was an embarrassment from start to finish and we robbed the cup by robbing football. I don't see our loss to Liverpool in the same way, we were "robbed" but it was a good match to watch. Football first for me. I hated Makelele - horrible player, ruined every game he touched. He got a lot of praise for it and he was effective but football was the victim. Wenger now has the funds to rebuild. I hope he rebuilds according to his philosophies and not pragmatically to the lowest denominator.

[selassie]

http://www.welt.de/sport/fussball/in...al-werden.html

Not sure how reliable they are.

Edited to add: Basically says Khedira will be joining us, seems quite detailed.

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[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

I get what you guys are saying but what this team needs is a solid DCM who can dominate that area and do what Arteta is supposed to do. Khedira was the more advanced of the 3 in the world cup and Schwein was the one sitting deep and doing the DCM job.

Did Arteta come here as a DM?

[AFC Leveller]

Did Arteta come here as a DM?

He didnt and actually played as an ACM in his first season with us then moved to DCM in his second season because we didnt buy anybody decent (or couldnt). The fact that we bought Flamini last season (who was first choice in the first few games) proved that AW wanted to strengthen that particular area.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

He didnt and actually played as an ACM in his first season with us then moved to DCM in his second season because we didnt buy anybody decent (or couldnt). The fact that we bought Flamini last season (who was first choice in the first few games) proved that AW wanted to strengthen that particular area.

But Wenger turned him into a DM right? So are you now telling me Wenger can't turn Khedira, who shits on Arteta in every aspect/attribute, into a DM?

The fuck outta here.

[AFC Leveller]

But Wenger turned him into a DM right? So are you now telling me Wenger can't turn Khedira, who shits on Arteta in every aspect/attribute, into a DM?

The fuck outta here.

You are missing my point. I know Wenger can turn him into a DCM but why dont we by a DCM by trade like Schneiderling or Bender and get it over with? if you look at the Chelsea, City and Liverpool defeats, you'll notice that we got robbed of the ball in the middle of the park for most of the goals and that because we didnt have anybody who can keep posession and keep things tight as well as protect the back 4.

Khedira is a good player and has loads of experience but if we have a choice between him and a proper DCM then the choice is easy.

We dont know if Wenger is going for him because he is his number 1 target ot that others (mentioned above) arent available/their clubs dont want to sell etc.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

But why dont we by a DCM by trade like Schneiderling or Bender and get it over with? if you look at the Chelsea, City and Liverpool defeats, you'll notice that we got robbed of the ball in the middle of the park for most of the goals and that because we didnt have anybody who can keep posession and keep things tight as well as protect the back 4.

Because he can do that.