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Thread: Fabregas goes to Barca for £35million

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    This is less to do with Asenal and wenger and more to do with how barca are massive cunts.

    Cesc only wanted to go there and seems as though he refused to play for us to get his move and barca would only pay a certain amount for him.

    Cesc and barca are the bigger cunts tbh.

    anyway cant we stop talking about about these fucks now and close this thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ach View Post
    http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3277/...as-josep-maria

    Wenger

    Hopefully hes learned his lesson when Barca come for Wilshere in a few years. Doubt it though
    What a massive, massive cunt. And what classless cunts Barcelona are. I can't recall any club owner (president in this case) actively bragging about having got a player on the cheap before. As for

    Ideally, nothing is leaked to the press, but that seems to be impossible because of all the parties that are involved
    Are you kidding me? Noone on AFC's side leaked anything to the press. It was all Barca's doing - with a player popping up every day to about Cesc's DNA etc.

    So what this amounts to is 'Look everyone how clever we are - we took advantage of an ex player's desire to return to us, and an Arsenal manager wanting to do the decent thing by his player, made the situation untenable and destabilised the selling club by using our own players and press leaks in a constant bid to undermine Arsenal, and now we can gloat about how effective our underhand methods were'. Utter, utter cunts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice Berg Kamping View Post
    What a massive, massive cunt. And what classless cunts Barcelona are. I can't recall any club owner (president in this case) actively bragging about having got a player on the cheap before. As for



    Are you kidding me? Noone on AFC's side leaked anything to the press. It was all Barca's doing - with a player popping up every day to about Cesc's DNA etc.

    So what this amounts to is 'Look everyone how clever we are - we took advantage of an ex player's desire to return to us, and an Arsenal manager wanting to do the decent thing by his player, made the situation untenable and destabilised the selling club by using our own players and press leaks in a constant bid to undermine Arsenal, and now we can gloat about how effective our underhand methods were'. Utter, utter cunts.
    Oh - and for those defending our ex-captain...our loss of €30M is pretty much down to him.
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    Wenger played a bad hand to the best of his ability and he played it as hard as he could. There was nothing he or the club could have done as the deck was stacked against us and everyone knew who held what cards.

    The alternative would be at best, holding on to a pining and disaffected want away player which would have been pretty much untenable given that the player in question was our Captain. Perhaps the people criticising Wenger would have preferred that, because it was the only other option.

    Nothing the Barca chairman said wasn't true, but neither does it alter the fact that little else could have been done.
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    this is partly about appeasing the barca fans who felt they overpaid for one of their own.

    but yeah, cesc cost us £20m with his antics, legend my arse.

    compare cesc words to those of a manchester united legend:

    Brazilian newspaper Terra, in what was said to be an exclusive interview, reported Ronaldo as saying: "I would like to play for Real Madrid, but only if it is true they are ready to pay what Manchester United ask of them. However, it does not depend on me."

    and thats how you dont con your club out of £20m like a fookin weasel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GB. View Post
    Wenger played a bad hand to the best of his ability and he played it as hard as he could. There was nothing he or the club could have done as the deck was stacked against us and everyone knew who held what cards.

    The alternative would be at best, holding on to a pining and disaffected want away player which would have been pretty much untenable given that the player in question was our Captain. Perhaps the people criticising Wenger would have preferred that, because it was the only other option.

    Nothing the Barca chairman said wasn't true, but neither does it alter the fact that lite else could have been done.
    That. We had a wantaway player who only wanted to go to one club. Yes he was on a reasonably long contract and we could have insisted he stayed but then we'd have had a 'Modric' on our hands and I'm not sure how well that will end for Spurs. Already last season people were questioning Cesc's commitment, keeping him another season would have made things worse. We couldn't start a bidding war 'cos Cesc only wanted to go to club and would only sign for one club. We knew it. Barca knew it. Everyone knew it.

    We had to either take less than market value or have a player, captain no less, who didn't want to play for us on our books.
    IMO we took the least bad option. The only thing we should have done different is agreed to it all sooner and bought to replace rather than scrambling around on deadline day (although we did some pretty good business that day in the end).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice Berg Kamping View Post
    What a massive, massive cunt. And what classless cunts Barcelona are. I can't recall any club owner (president in this case) actively bragging about having got a player on the cheap before. As for



    Are you kidding me? Noone on AFC's side leaked anything to the press. It was all Barca's doing - with a player popping up every day to about Cesc's DNA etc.

    So what this amounts to is 'Look everyone how clever we are - we took advantage of an ex player's desire to return to us, and an Arsenal manager wanting to do the decent thing by his player, made the situation untenable and destabilised the selling club by using our own players and press leaks in a constant bid to undermine Arsenal, and now we can gloat about how effective our underhand methods were'. Utter, utter cunts.
    Yep Barca have made themselves look really classless in the whole affair TBH. It's bad enough us having to endure the last two summers of the speculation but this just takes things a step too far, it borders on unsporting.

    I don't know why they can't just get on with it, they've got the player for the price they felt was acceptable, why the need to boast about it?

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    As soon as Cesc said he wanted to leave then we should have put him on the market. We shouldn't have given a toss if he only wanted to join Barca. As soon as he said he doesn't want to play for us anymore then it doesn't make a difference where he goes. Put him on the market, man city or Real come in with a £50m+ bid and Barca don't, we tell Cesc Barca don't really want him as they refuse to pay as much as other clubs so he can either stfu and stay wid us or he goes to Real or City. Simples.

    However we have an awful manager who wouldn't know how to stand up to a player to save his life and also has previous of bending over for Barca and that's exactly what he did meaning we get a shit price for a world class player and Arsenal lose out once again.

    Just fuck off Wenger
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    ARSENE WENGER convinced the Arsenal board to LOWER Cesc Fabregas' asking price so he could secure a dream return to Barcelona — according to the midfield star.

    Spanish playmaker Fabregas rejoined his old club in a £35million switch last month, though Barca have since admitted his value is closer to twice that figure.

    Gunners fans were left fuming at the fee the North Londoners accepted for the 24-year-old, with many claiming it was far lower than his true worth.

    But Fabregas' desire to return home to his boyhood club was so great Arsenal boss Wenger stepped in to smooth the deal over.

    Fabregas admitted: "Without Arsene I would not be a Barca player now.

    "He convinced the owners of Arsenal – who would not sell under any circumstances – to lower the price."

    Fabregas moved to London as a 16-year-old in 2003 and made 303 appearances for the Gunners, scoring 57 goals.

    And the World Cup winner concedes he owes his whole career to Wenger.

    The Spanish international added: "Without Arsene I would not have made my debut by 16, played in the final of the Champions League at 18 and been team captain by 20.

    "I would be nothing without him — what he has given me is priceless."

    Fabregas won just ONE piece of silverware during his eight-year stay in London — the 2005 FA Cup.

    And he maintains that is the one black mark on his Arsenal career.

    He said: "In terms of titles, I am bitter about that. Missing out on winning the Premier League about three times — I would have liked to have taken that, but it could not happen."

    However, despite winning two trophies during his brief time already at the Nou Camp, Fabregas insists he does not consider himself a first-team starter just yet.

    Speaking to El Pais, he said: "It is clear that only players like Xavi, Andres Iniesta and Lionel Messi could complain about a lack of playing time. If they did complain I would respect that, so I will play when I play.

    "I feel I still have much to learn, this team is highly mechanised and there are things I have to catch up on particularly in defence.

    "I have never seen a team that is so focused on the attack-defend transition — playing against Barcelona is very complicated but playing at the club is not so easy and that is the challenge.

    "I honestly feel that at times I may hinder them, but they are good at fixing it and hiding it — I must adapt to them and learn."

    He added: "Their style of play is the most beautiful thing I have seen in my life, all you hear is the ball going — tap, tap, tap — I have never seen so much training at this level."
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...ce-for-me.html



    How is this guy a manager?

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    Cesc was desperate to leave because it became clear that this club was on it's way down. If we'd have shown some ambition in the transfer window much earlier then maybe he wouldn't have been so desperate to leave. It's on the club and Wenger. We were stuffed on the price but it doesn't matter because we were never going to buy a huge star player.
    Look at the Arteta deal. You think any other club would put up with that insulting first offer and then rub salt in the wound by telling the player to take a wage cut?

    Depending on how this season goes, RVP, Verms and Walcott could be out the door next. We can only hope the new signings turn our prospects around. We have weak men running this club. It's not the first time we've bent over for Barca and played the wrong hand. When Wenger sat Cesc down and begged him to stay last season he should have went out and signed players that would have helped our season. He chose the cheap option and now we're paying the price. When we lost to Man U, Wenger knew this squad was broken and morale was at an all time low. We had to go out and sign players otherwise we'd have been finished. About time, but if he'd have done this two seasons ago it may have never come to this.

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