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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Also, you are one of Wenger's biggest critics. It's the result of watching the same dross year in year out.

    Don't you think it's possible for a player that's close to the club and Wenger to feel the same way? Why would a player that has been here for 8 years and lost 3 finals and watched the team blow 3 Prem League titles stay here for another 8 years?
    You make it sound like he wasnt part of the dross. He was captain. He led the dross. He was the poster boy of the youth project and i doubt he was too critical of it cos he knows that without the project, he himself wouldnt have made the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milla View Post
    Loyalty between club and players are two ways traffic, if one give less the other will walk away.
    We gave Cesc plenty, he gave us plenty. He didn't walk away because he was disloyal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Yeah but why is it all about the financial realities one minute and then other considerations such as what the player wants becomes so important the next? We can't pay an extra few million for a quality player because it's the financial reality, don't you know? Then we can't realise the proper value of a player because suddenly it's about Cesc and what he wants.
    Well it is all about Wenger tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL) View Post
    We should have sorted it out sooner and bought a decent replacement. Otherwise I'm not sure what we could have done different.
    We could have kept him but we'd just have had a disaffected player all year and we'd have had this all again next summer and with us in a weaker position with less time left on his contract.
    Barca got him cheap 'cos they knew he'd only sign for them and they could afford to wait another year if they really had to.
    I dont think that really has anything to do with how cheap they got him. More to do with Wenger bending over. Cesc himself has said Wenger went to the board to tell them to lower the asking price.

    Ive said it before. We should have put Cesc on the market, get £50m+ offers from City and/or Real and if Barca dont match that then we take Cesc to one side and tell him "We have £50m+ offer for you from a couple of clubs. You dont seriously expect us to sell you to Barca for half that do you? Be realistic"

    It would have taken just a bit of manning up from Wenger and i have no doubt if Barca saw we were willing to sell to others, they'd have put up the money. They have overpaid before for ZLatan and some Ukranian defender they spent £20m+ on who only played a handful of games for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL) View Post
    We gave Cesc plenty, he gave us plenty. He didn't walk away because he was disloyal.
    The club doesnt give him or in fact all of senior players enough. Especially in terms of strengthening the first team with quality players (to help exisiting players) and the club doesnt show (no action just talk) enough ambition to win titles. It's deluded for a club to ask our star players to stay when the club itself failed to match players ambition. How long do you think RVP or Vermaelan will want to play big brother for half of teenagers in our first team?
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    @Ach

    Yes, you have said that before but it didn't make sense then either.
    He wasn't going to sign for anyone else. We knew it. Barca knew it. Everyone knew it, I doubt anyone else would have bothered bidding for him.

    Wenger 'manned up' last summer and told Barca to do one and convinced Cesc to stay but we couldn't do that indefinitely and the ultimate conclusion would have been him going on a free in a few years. As I said people were already questioning his commitment last year, I don't think keeping him was a sensible option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ach View Post
    I dont think that really has anything to do with how cheap they got him. More to do with Wenger bending over. Cesc himself has said Wenger went to the board to tell them to lower the asking price.

    Ive said it before. We should have put Cesc on the market, get £50m+ offers from City and/or Real and if Barca dont match that then we take Cesc to one side and tell him "We have £50m+ offer for you from a couple of clubs. You dont seriously expect us to sell you to Barca for half that do you? Be realistic"

    It would have taken just a bit of manning up from Wenger and i have no doubt if Barca saw we were willing to sell to others, they'd have put up the money. They have overpaid before for ZLatan and some Ukranian defender they spent £20m+ on who only played a handful of games for them.


    Getting £50m+ offers from City and/or Real doesnt mean we will sell to them but good enough to show Barcunts how much the player worth. Force them to man the feck up and pay the market value. Wenger got it really2 wrong tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ach View Post
    I dont think that really has anything to do with how cheap they got him. More to do with Wenger bending over. Cesc himself has said Wenger went to the board to tell them to lower the asking price.Ive said it before. We should have put Cesc on the market, get £50m+ offers from City and/or Real and if Barca dont match that then we take Cesc to one side and tell him "We have £50m+ offer for you from a couple of clubs. You dont seriously expect us to sell you to Barca for half that do you? Be realistic"It would have taken just a bit of manning up from Wenger and i have no doubt if Barca saw we were willing to sell to others, they'd have put up the money. They have overpaid before for ZLatan and some Ukranian defender they spent £20m+ on who only played a handful of games for them.
    You don't believe any of that.

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    We wouldn't have got any offers. Why would anyone bid for a player who they know won't sign for them?
    Everyone knew where he was going and he wasn't going anywhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Yeah but why is it all about the financial realities one minute and then other considerations such as what the player wants becomes so important the next? We can't pay an extra few million for a quality player because it's the financial reality, don't you know? Then we can't realise the proper value of a player because suddenly it's about Cesc and what he wants.
    Because Wenger isn't being 100% truthful and nobody wants to sit under such dishonesty. The players are tired of the excuses and they've come out and said 'no more excuses'. Check Theo's and RVP's past few interviews. Wenger has run out of time.

    He's able to convince the board to sell Cesc on the cheap but he can't convince them to adjust the wage policy. That makes no sense to me.

    We might not know what's going on behind closed doors but the players do and they're walking.

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