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    The papers have run riot with the stories. It's all out of context.
    ??? Is it ever any other way? They were always going to spin things up.

    For the fans, the only real question concerns the weirdness about the transfer only happening as a result of him going to Italy. Very strange.

    Reading between the lines, sounds like Welbeck will be starting centrally vs the gypos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post

    Reading between the lines, sounds like Welbeck will be starting centrally vs the gypos.
    Central defence? Or in goal?

    Could be both.

    Hopefully someone influential on Twitter is reading GW so the "Wenger to start Welbeck in central defence" panic can start.

    Syn might be required to put out fires again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    ??? Is it ever any other way? They were always going to spin things up.

    For the fans, the only real question concerns the weirdness about the transfer only happening as a result of him going to Italy. Very strange.

    Reading between the lines, sounds like Welbeck will be starting centrally vs the gypos.
    The deadline day deal thing just proves Wenger was willing to gamble on the striker situation. That’s a worry and we at least know this wasn’t some brilliant ‘Wenger smokescreen’ or deadline day strategic chess move. We just got lucky.

    People will always shit stir and sensationalise to attract attention. It happens all the time on GW as just seen. I suspect the mods have people they can call when traffic is a bit low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    The deadline day deal thing just proves Wenger was willing to gamble on the striker situation. That’s a worry and we at least know this wasn’t some brilliant ‘Wenger smokescreen’ or deadline day strategic chess move. We just got lucky...
    Maybe? Maybe all it proves is that Wenger was only really after one forward signing this summer (Alexis), and that Welbeck was a last-minute reaction to a last-minute problem? Did we get lucky with that? Probably, but then you could argue that we got unlucky with losing Giroud right at the end of the window - taken in that light, you could say that we've actually reacted pretty quickly (for us)?

    Anyway, however planned or unplanned it was, let's just hope the universe has done us favour here - most of us wanted to see another CF come in, even if Wenger thought we were good... and now we have one!

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    With agents running the game, Wenger would've had information a long time ago. He kept talking about 'deadline day poker'. You can call him lucky this year, you can say he was lucky last year but the deadline deals did get done. With Man Utd looking likely to get Falcao, Wenger did say he wasn't surprised that Welbeck was available. Tottenham were heavily linked with him too before deadline day. He said the surprise was about the 'loan v permanent' situation. As invisible says the 'luck' involved was probably Giroud getting injured because Wenger might've gambled on Giroud's usually reliable fitness levels.

    I'd say he's taking a big chance on the CB situation but overall the squad was strengthened. I'd say 3 decent signings, 1 potentially great signing (Chambers) and 1 brilliant signing (Sanchez). I expected worse at the start of the window.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    With agents running the game, Wenger would've had information a long time ago. He kept talking about 'deadline day poker'. You can call him lucky this year, you can say he was lucky last year but the deadline deals did get done. With Man Utd looking likely to get Falcao, Wenger did say he wasn't surprised that Welbeck was available. Tottenham were heavily linked with him too before deadline day. He said the surprise was about the 'loan v permanent' situation. As invisible says the 'luck' involved was probably Giroud getting injured because Wenger might've gambled on Giroud's usually reliable fitness levels.

    I'd say he's taking a big chance on the CB situation but overall the squad was strengthened. I'd say 3 decent signings, 1 potentially great signing (Chambers) and 1 brilliant signing (Sanchez). I expected worse at the start of the window.


    Are we missing a trick by not relentlessly ripping the piss out of the spuds for losing out again? To lose Welbeck might be considered unfortunate, but to lose their whole stadium smacks of carelessness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Are we missing a trick by not relentlessly ripping the piss out of the spuds for losing out again? To lose Welbeck might be considered unfortunate, but to lose their whole stadium smacks of carelessness.
    They probably sold it for smack tbf, about £2.59 worth, shit hole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    With agents running the game, Wenger would've had information a long time ago. He kept talking about 'deadline day poker'. You can call him lucky this year, you can say he was lucky last year but the deadline deals did get done. With Man Utd looking likely to get Falcao, Wenger did say he wasn't surprised that Welbeck was available. Tottenham were heavily linked with him too before deadline day. He said the surprise was about the 'loan v permanent' situation. As invisible says the 'luck' involved was probably Giroud getting injured because Wenger might've gambled on Giroud's usually reliable fitness levels.

    I'd say he's taking a big chance on the CB situation but overall the squad was strengthened. I'd say 3 decent signings, 1 potentially great signing (Chambers) and 1 brilliant signing (Sanchez). I expected worse at the start of the window.


    I'm not so sure he knew of the Welbeck situation long before deadline day as you suggest. He may have suspected they'd have to sell at least one of their strikers if the Falcao deal goes through but I wouldn't say he intended on moving for one of them or was on the phone with his agent well before. If he was serious about the deal not happening if he hadn't have gone to Rome, it suggests he would have gambled on the players we had to see us through Giroud's injury. I'm hoping that's just him trying be humorous. But I doubt it when you look at the situation with the defenders where he has gambled on their fitness.

    If agents were keeping us well versed with the Welbeck situation, what happened with their input on available defenders? Shouldn't we have known there weren't many defenders around and maybe kept Verm and Miquel? I look at that situation and compare it to the striker's and it just boils down to circumstance instead of taking action early.

    It's great that reacted quickly to the Welbeck situation but we shouldn't be reacting and putting out fires. A bit of forward planning would be nice. If Wenger truly intended to play Sanchez as a striker, that idea must get thrown out the window with Welbeck's arrival. It's pointless playing Danny on the wing. We'll see what happens over the season. It hasn't been a bad window at all but we can do better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    It's pointless playing Danny on the wing
    So will start on the left wing, Alexis on the right, Sanogo upfront then...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I'm not so sure he knew of the Welbeck situation long before deadline day as you suggest. He may have suspected they'd have to sell at least one of their strikers if the Falcao deal goes through but I wouldn't say he intended on moving for one of them or was on the phone with his agent well before. If he was serious about the deal not happening if he hadn't have gone to Rome, it suggests he would have gambled on the players we had to see us through Giroud's injury. I'm hoping that's just him trying be humorous. But I doubt it when you look at the situation with the defenders where he has gambled on their fitness.

    If agents were keeping us well versed with the Welbeck situation, what happened with their input on available defenders? Shouldn't we have known there weren't many defenders around and maybe kept Verm and Miquel? I look at that situation and compare it to the striker's and it just boils down to circumstance instead of taking action early.

    It's great that reacted quickly to the Welbeck situation but we shouldn't be reacting and putting out fires. A bit of forward planning would be nice. If Wenger truly intended to play Sanchez as a striker, that idea must get thrown out the window with Welbeck's arrival. It's pointless playing Danny on the wing. We'll see what happens over the season. It hasn't been a bad window at all but we can do better.
    I still dont understand why we are not signing Yepes as a backup CB for the season. No brainer tbh..
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