Wenger Referendum: Yes Or No

[Power n Glory]

When all you do is finish 4th with the 4th highest budget in the league (and for a long time the 3rd, before City got minted). It is hard to award yourself the title of genius.

The man has achieved the minimum expected of any decent manager with his means. He is limited by his own incompetence and yearly accruing arrogance. He wont win the CL in another 20 attempts. Its just not within him, given the opportunity he will always find a way to handicap himself

It's an argument Letter's continues to preach but in those years is he seriously saying we shouldn't be finishing above teams like Everton, Spurs, Newcastle and the rest? They've never had players that come close to matching what we've had even at our weakest.

The genuine threat to 4th place has come now that we have to look out for Liverpool and Utd. We were lucky United did so poorly last season or we'd have never qualified for CL football.

It's time for Wenger to step down. As the competition in the Prem gets harder and teams progress, he gets worse or exposed.

[Globalgunner]

It's an argument Letter's continues to preach but in those years is he seriously saying we shouldn't be finishing above teams like Everton, Spurs, Newcastle and the rest? They've never had players that come close to matching what we've had even at our weakest.

The genuine threat to 4th place has come now that we have to look out for Liverpool and Utd. We were lucky United did so poorly last season or we'd have never qualified for CL football.

It's time for Wenger to step down. As the competition in the Prem gets harder and teams progress, he gets worse or exposed.

The only thing Letters is seriously saying is that the most likely successor to Wenger would be a Moyes look alike. He has however been saying that since before Moyes was a wee bairn. so you need to take that in consideration.

[Letters]

The only thing Letters is seriously saying is that the most likely successor to Wenger would be a Moyes look alike.

Nope, didn't say that at all

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

The only thing Letters is seriously saying is that the most likely successor to Wenger would be a Moyes look alike.

Spot on.

[Letters]

I'll join in the WUMing

[LDG]

I sided on "no" at the end of last season, though like others also thought maybe he deserved a chance to spend some dosh after winning the FA Cup.

Though what I thought about tactical and preparative measures at the end of last season prevail in this.

It's unforgivable to keep leaving is short, both in personel and in conditioning prior to playing each game. No thought of the opposition is ever apparent. That's not confidence, that's neglagence.

I'm not about to crucify the bloke (he seems to be tarnishing his own legacy anyway), call him an idiot etc.as I think he deserves repect, and a place amongst other Arsenal heros. He is quite possibly the most influential manager in our history (for good things). And, dare I say it, in the English game.

It should be the owners and board who let him go quietly, and with respect, as he's hanging himself little bit at the moment.

Will always love the geezer though.

Even though it's a "no". Hope he proves me wrong.

[Kano]

I sided on "no" at the end of last season, though like others also thought maybe he deserved a chance to spend some dosh after winning the FA Cup.

Though what I thought about tactical and preparative measures at the end of last season prevail in this.

It's unforgivable to keep leaving is short, both in personel and in conditioning prior to playing each game. No thought of the opposition is ever apparent. That's not confidence, that's neglagence.

I'm not about to crucify the bloke (he seems to be tarnishing his own legacy anyway), call him an idiot etc.as I think he deserves repect, and a place amongst other Arsenal heros. He is quite possibly the most influential manager in our history (for good things). And, dare I say it, in the English game.

It should be the owners and board who let him go quietly, and with respect, as he's hanging himself little bit at the moment.

Will always love the geezer though.

Even though it's a "no". Hope he proves me wrong.

Someone on the Arseblog summed it up well enough. When we had the best players in the league we could let them go out there and figure out how to win the games, we only had Man U as competition. Now there are at least three other teams, with players every bit as good as ours and the dated approach 'go out there and be creative' isn't good enough, which is why we have floundered in the league for so long.

There's no guarantee that by leaving we'll get in someone who can do better but there is a guarantee that with Wenger staying we will not progress at all which is not good enough given the resources available.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Well at least it's confirmed those that wanted Wenger out were right all along.

For years we were ridiculed and laughed at on here for speaking sense. When even Ollie has finally admitted that Wenger is holding us back, it puts an end to the debate.

If only Cripps were here to share the moment with us.

What a huge moral victory.

[fakeyank]

Just watching Everton in the Europa league and you cannot tell me with a straight face that Martinez is not one of the strongest candidates to take Wengers job. That guy has transformed Evertons style of play... imagine what he could with Sanchez, Ozil Cazorla, Ramsey, Welbeck, Walcott. I dont know whether we will challenge for the title for sure, what I'm sure about is the fact that we will play some fast breathtaking football and not the tippy tappy no urgency BS!

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Just watching Everton in the Europa league and you cannot tell me with a straight face that Martinez is not one of the strongest candidates to take Wengers job. That guy has transformed Evertons style of play... imagine what he could with Sanchez, Ozil Cazorla, Ramsey, Welbeck, Walcott. I dont know whether we will challenge for the title for sure, what I'm sure about is the fact that we will play some fast breathtaking football and not the tippy tappy no urgency BS!

Frankly No, i want someone who has actually won at least a domestic title somewhere.....i agree he's doing a good job with Everton but if people are talking about the big name pull that we have, yes i'd want someone bigger than Martinez who has not managed a club in the Champions League (and completley choked when they managed to nose in front of us for qualification towards the end of last season) let alone come anywhere near winning a league title.